JanSt

101 Reasons not to buy a Windows Phone 7.5 device - OUCH?!

Could I resist? Could I?

My-Symbian.Com published this lovely list of, shall we say "shortcomings" of Windows Phone 7.5 that many people may not expect in a modern smartphone.
In fact, I'll admit it: I consider myself mildly well informed about smartphones; I owned a WP device when the platform was launched, read about many more and tried a couple in person. Yet, I wasn't aware of some of those idiotic flaws/bugs...whatever you want to call.

So here:

( please visit My-Symbian for some caveats - manufacturers have added some workarounds to some of the listed shortcomings etc etc... )
MOD Edit Mr Nim updated this list on page 3 of this thread. For your convenience I pasted his new list into this post. You can still visit the original AllAbout link above
Update 28/12/2012
WP8 update:
OS LIMITATIONS
12. Cannot set static IP address so no connection to ad-hoc networks.
17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in the phone.
19. No centralized notification page.
20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off.
27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by flipping the phone

USABILITY ISSUES
31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down apps you don’t want running in the background.
32. Search and Back button cannot be de-activated in apps or games and can be touched by accident which interrupt your user experience.
34. No way to close an app except pressing back button all the way to the first screen.
41. Cannot lock screen orientation.
46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms or email to save or use as calling number.
49. Notification for recurring events is only given once and none thereafter.
50. Apps are listed alphabetically with no way to group by category. Can be hard to find if you don’t remember the name.
52. No peak/off-peak scheduling for email downloads.

FEATURE LIMITATIONS
55. No haptic feedback for keyboard. [this is an OEM limition but WP8 can be operated with gloves on!]
57. No flashplayer support.
58. No support for Java apps.
65. FM radio doesn’t work on speaker.
69. Cannot open zip or rar files received as email attachment.
72. No native Google maps
73. Email time stamp does not show the year.
74. difference in apps availability in different markets

DUMB AND DUMBER
78. If you receive a text message when talking on the phone an you will hear an audio alert
79. Mobile nos. entered in other fields will not accept sms.
83. Volume up/down buttons cannot operate when screen is off.
84. Phone will wake up and display sms content on lockscreen when locked – a privacy violation.

FEATURES EVEN DUMB PHONES HAVE BUT WP7.5 DOESN’T
88. Cannot save new contacts from call history. [unverified

Most Useful Answer bilbob  May. 11, 2012 at 23:12

You see, this blog, by virtue of being linked to via HUKD, will in all likelyhood have a really good number of readers, and it's this sort of blatently tilted stuff that gets my goat.

What is this site? Is it a just a 'blog'? A person's opinion? Or is it to be represented as news? Because 'news' implied some sort of research.

You can't simply hide behind 'I didn't write it', but then repost it in full, and not take any responsibility for it. That's the laziest, most transparent excuse in the world.

If I retweet bomb threats, then I'm still gonna get s special search.

Yet you still, repeatedly try to hide behind 'it isn't my list', almost imploringly, almost apologetically, yet still knowing that it is deliberately set just to wind people up and spread misinformation, simply to back up an OPINION YOU HOLD.

If nothing else the list is based on one set of opinions, and yet, it appears on the front page of a massively read popular forum.

I don't care about your personal opinions, but when you potentially have that sort of reach, then you NEED to take some responsibilty for what you write., and that appeared on HUKD front page, was '101 reasons not to buy a windows phone'.

You want to appear un baised? THen remove this entry, and repost it when you have an equivalent for android, ios, black berry and symbian.
Or, conversely, post an opposing piece.

Or would that be too much trouble to actually do some research?

Until then, accept that this piece is just broadcasting your own prejudices.

EDIT: I'll happily admit, that I didn't read to the end of the list, and then read what you put at the bottom of the first post.
In fact, it actually reinforces what I wrote above about how posts are represented here.
If you really wanted to make a 'discussion', then why didn't you post that ABOVE the list, making it clear that this wasn't meant to be represented as hard fact?

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JanSt / MOD  May. 11, 2012 at 21:20

PS:

attention: WE UNDERSTAND this list IS FAR FROM correct! that IS WHY WE SHOULD try & correct IT, RIGHT! also, some replies contain logic-fail, so read carefully! :p

To clarify:
I posted this for information. I was genuinely surprised by some of those missing features!
I am not saying this list proves WP is "worse" than a, b or c...
Nor do I claim any phone does ALL those 101 things while WP doesn't do any of them.
I don't know a phone or mobile OS that offers all those features out-of-the-box.

But to me at least, this is quite a collection of, partly, real oddball omissions.

Also:
Please correct any errors! (I know the original list contained more points, and who knows, maybe some other 'features' no longer apply?! ;)

R E P E A T:

The list is NOT written by me.

I pointed out that I owned a WP upon launch of the platform... NOT recently.
I asked specifically for corrections of any errors by users!

This list comes from My-Symbian.Com - another fact I highlighted. It was last updated today!

I did not GUARANTEE its accuracy! I said: it's for information and to find errors!

I suggest to deal with this faulty list, you COPY and PASTE faulty points into your reply!


Once we have discussed and analyzed the entire list, I will post a reply on My-Symbian!

This is a debate, not my gospel!

mmasaba  May. 11, 2012 at 21:35

99. Not true
96.Not true
95.Not true
93. Not true
92. Not true
90.Not true
89.Not true
88.Not true

Ok getting tired of typing not true after starting from last line...Do you have a windows phone? If you don't, then why post this, if you do, then you are not using the full potential of your WP7.5.
I do agree with some of the things you wrote, but more than 50% of that is just not true

Zarniw0Op  May. 11, 2012 at 21:47

You are clearly a VERY knowledgeable person.......NOT!!! I suggest that you actually find out a little more before posting this type of ****. All this article says to me is that the author is really proud of his ignorance because he shows it off a lot!

JanSt / MOD  May. 11, 2012 at 21:56

@mmasaba and Zarniw0Op,

I get your point, but you clearly did not read both my posts completely!

The list is NOT written by me.

I pointed out that I owned a WP upon launch of the platform... NOT recently.
I asked specifically for corrections of any errors by users!

This list comes from My-Symbian.Com - another fact I highlighted. It was last updated today!

I did not GUARANTEE its accuracy! I said: it's for information and to find errors!

I suggest to deal with this faulty list, you COPY and PASTE faulty points into your reply!


Once we have discussed and analyzed the entire list, I will post a reply on My-Symbian!

This is a debate, not my gospel! ;)

JanSt / MOD  May. 11, 2012 at 21:58

You are clearly a VERY knowledgeable person.......NOT!!! I suggest that you actually find out a little more before posting this type of ****. All this article says to me is that the author is really proud of his ignorance because he shows it off a lot!

Read ENTIRE posts before you reply, please! I clearly ask readers for corrections of any errors, BECAUSE I DID NOT write that list! ;)

Zarniw0Op  May. 11, 2012 at 22:01

I read enough to see you have almostzero knowledge of the fact. It's as if I posted about quantum physics saying CERN was wrong and I know nothing about quantum physics. I will say that almost everything you posted is pure fabrication. Now, might I suggest you are yourself with solid facts? I have also tweeted your article to the Microsoft and the Windows Phone teams for their consideration. Good night

Pondlife  May. 11, 2012 at 22:04

Defensive much?

Retardsur  May. 11, 2012 at 22:06

god, the internet has just hit a new low

JanSt / MOD  May. 11, 2012 at 22:07

I read enough to see you have almostzero knowledge of the fact. It's as if I posted about quantum physics saying CERN was wrong and I know nothing about quantum physics. I will say that almost everything you posted is pure fabrication. Now, might I suggest you are yourself with solid facts? I have also tweeted your article to the Microsoft and the Windows Phone teams for their consideration. Good night

carry on, trooper ;)

JanSt / MOD  May. 11, 2012 at 22:17

god, the internet has just hit a new low

What do you mean hahaha?

This list has been posted in quite a few place - and not just by me with my "almostzero knowledge`'....

Thus the "Ouch" in the title. Thus my asking readers for corrections of any errors. Thus my posting the link to the original thread on My-Symbian.

Sure, I'm not a MS-fan, but I think a CORRECT list of missing features of an OS is not a bad idea.

It is also worth noting that Mobot and other sites are full of comments by Apple-haters who post "facts" about iOS that were true in 2007, but not now... Same goes for Symbian etc etc...
I was genuine when I said the list "surprised" me. I was also genuine when I asked for corrections so that we can create a correct list!

And this is my last reply :p

deathtrap3000  May. 11, 2012 at 22:53

The list must have been written by someone with no experience of windows phone, or someone trying to nit pick. Some of those are non issues and designs of the system.
Zune will convert to suite the phone, not necessarily with loss of quality.
The 16gb thing isn’t a ms limit, just no one has released a phone with more storage yet
10, 11, 14, 15 are wrong
Usally when something is off the it wont play an alarm, like most phones out there.
Idle screen doesn’t show anything? Does that mean when the screen is off?
Ive been listening to audio from videos using my Bluetooth so 24 is wrong.
You can make playlists on the phone but not edit them.
You can delete songs from your phone.
When you search for music, it includes stuff you already have so 38 is wrong.
There is a progress bar for music.
83 is wrong, volume can be controlled when screen is off.
88 and 89 are wrong as you can do both.

Betas  May. 11, 2012 at 22:55

original here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84187&highlight=101+reasons
some have been refuted but it was originally posted to shut up a troll on tmo. alot of missing stuff is quite amazing judging an n73 from 2006 could do it!

JanSt / MOD  May. 11, 2012 at 23:02

Thanks for the CONSTRUCTIVE contributions, guys :)

bilbob  May. 11, 2012 at 23:12

You see, this blog, by virtue of being linked to via HUKD, will in all likelyhood have a really good number of readers, and it's this sort of blatently tilted stuff that gets my goat.

What is this site? Is it a just a 'blog'? A person's opinion? Or is it to be represented as news? Because 'news' implied some sort of research.

You can't simply hide behind 'I didn't write it', but then repost it in full, and not take any responsibility for it. That's the laziest, most transparent excuse in the world.

If I retweet bomb threats, then I'm still gonna get s special search.

Yet you still, repeatedly try to hide behind 'it isn't my list', almost imploringly, almost apologetically, yet still knowing that it is deliberately set just to wind people up and spread misinformation, simply to back up an OPINION YOU HOLD.

If nothing else the list is based on one set of opinions, and yet, it appears on the front page of a massively read popular forum.

I don't care about your personal opinions, but when you potentially have that sort of reach, then you NEED to take some responsibilty for what you write., and that appeared on HUKD front page, was '101 reasons not to buy a windows phone'.

You want to appear un baised? THen remove this entry, and repost it when you have an equivalent for android, ios, black berry and symbian.
Or, conversely, post an opposing piece.

Or would that be too much trouble to actually do some research?

Until then, accept that this piece is just broadcasting your own prejudices.

EDIT: I'll happily admit, that I didn't read to the end of the list, and then read what you put at the bottom of the first post.
In fact, it actually reinforces what I wrote above about how posts are represented here.
If you really wanted to make a 'discussion', then why didn't you post that ABOVE the list, making it clear that this wasn't meant to be represented as hard fact?

fallshin  May. 11, 2012 at 23:43

You see, this blog, by virtue of being linked to via HUKD, will in all likelyhood have a really good number of readers, and it's this sort of blatently tilted stuff that gets my goat.

What is this site? Is it a just a 'blog'? A person's opinion? Or is it to be represented as news? Because 'news' implied some sort of research.

You can't simply hide behind 'I didn't write it', but then repost it in full, and not take any responsibility for it. That's the laziest, most transparent excuse in the world.

If I retweet bomb threats, then I'm still gonna get s special search.

Yet you still, repeatedly try to hide behind 'it isn't my list', almost imploringly, almost apologetically, yet still knowing that it is deliberately set just to wind people up and spread misinformation, simply to back up an OPINION YOU HOLD.

If nothing else the list is based on one set of opinions, and yet, it appears on the front page of a massively read popular forum.

I don't care about your personal opinions, but when you potentially have that sort of reach, then you NEED to take some responsibilty for what you write., and that appeared on HUKD front page, was '101 reasons not to buy a windows phone'.

You want to appear un baised? THen remove this entry, and repost it when you have an equivalent for android, ios, black berry and symbian.
Or, conversely, post an opposing piece.

Or would that be too much trouble to actually do some research?

Until then, accept that this piece is just broadcasting your own prejudices.

EDIT: I'll happily admit, that I didn't read to the end of the list, and then read what you put at the bottom of the first post.
In fact, it actually reinforces what I wrote above about how posts are represented here.
If you really wanted to make a 'discussion', then why didn't you post that ABOVE the list, making it clear that this wasn't meant to be represented as hard fact?




Spot on. I thought this was pretty convincing until I noticed several that I knew for a fact I've done today with my WP7. Don't hide behind this being someone elses list, you published it. If you read your own source you would have seen there's loads of comments already on how much of this is untrue, obtuse and biased.

A modicum of research or even a proper introduction and title for what this is would have been a good idea.

JanSt / MOD  May. 11, 2012 at 23:58

Guys, I have to laugh, honestly.
Sorry.
The post is NOT an "article" - it is a thread anyone here can start.
I should have researched it? WHAT is this IF NOT research?
A number of sites listed this as gospel. Should I have "researched" on those sites?
NO, I ASK for corrections.

AND yes, guess what: for that reason I wanted it to be seen.

And thanks for the contributions.

JanSt / MOD  May. 12, 2012 at 00:03

@fallshin,
apologies, I'm not on a PC, so I cannot authorise your comment.
I read it, and it's appreciated ;)

alanweird  May. 12, 2012 at 00:06

Um... Wow.

I stick with android, but I know most of those reasons not to be true.

JanSt / MOD  May. 12, 2012 at 00:08

bilbob,

I am not unbiased, by the way.
And to suggest I can only post something like THIS after doing it to other OSS shows that you aren't unbiased, either.
Where is your sense of humour?

Treab  May. 12, 2012 at 00:28

Sorry but even if this was true for 1 phone at launch on w7.5 having any feature missing that comes as standard on a feature phone should be embarrassing...

matt101101 / MOD  May. 12, 2012 at 00:45

People get so angry, so easily...

Treab  May. 12, 2012 at 00:47

People get so angry, so easily...

i know... and they usually have 'mod' after their name whatever that means...

matt101101 / MOD  May. 12, 2012 at 00:49

Interesting, I didn't think that'd be your response.

Treab  May. 12, 2012 at 00:59

Interesting, I didn't think that'd be your response.

what did you think my response would be? also did you ban the tit from the smartphone article comparing it to 'genocide'

Pondlife  May. 12, 2012 at 01:03

Found it interesting that (I think) each of us has recommended the 710 on here at one time or another and yet the site now seems to be responsible for WP7s inability to sell phones.

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