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4G Auction Results

Im surprised this hasn't been posted by anyone yet. Been waiting for an article all day. Here are the final results

Everything Everywhere Ltd

2 x 5 MHz of 800 MHz and 2 x 35 MHz of 2.6 GHz £588,876,000

Hutchison 3G UK Ltd

2x 10MHz of 1800 MHz (purchased from EE)
2 x 5 MHz of 800 MHz £225,000,000

Niche Spectrum Ventures Ltd (a subsidiary of BT Group plc)

2 x 15 MHz of 2.6 GHz and 1 x 20 MHz of 2.6 GHz (unpaired) £186,476,000

Telefónica UK Ltd

2 x 10 MHz of 800 MHz (coverage obligation lot) £550,000,000

Vodafone Ltd

2 x 10 MHz of 800 MHz, 2 x 20 MHz of 2.6 GHz and 1 x 25 MHz of 2.6 GHz (unpaired) £790,761,000
Total £2,341,113,000

Should see 4g role out end of July./

Vodafone seem to sell 4g phones then will charge for a 4G bolt on
Three have announced 4G will be avaliable at no extra charge
O2 have announced nothing yet.
EE charge too much...

Most Useful Answer AhmadCentral  Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:34

Its enough mate. Three can have a good 4g network with what they have now.

The o2 voda share is good bit its a ran share which means that o2 will still only broadcast on 800mhz frequency and will not have any access to vodafone 2600mhz frequency. So they will not have any 2600mhz which I find a bit odd.

On my phone so I cant explain what I mean fully

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JanSt / MOD  Feb. 20, 2013 at 19:41

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T4KpvQ9pwAY/T1mzK6VWhDI/AAAAAAAAEbc/hG34psPMOEI/s1600/tumblr_m0kvokJbBB1qeqflxo1_500.gif

Well, thanks, Ahmad. Lewis is already on probabtion, and I'm working on an end to Martin's career :p

AhmadCentral  Feb. 20, 2013 at 19:50

judgey  Feb. 21, 2013 at 00:12

is it true that 4G uses what used to be the old style tv aerials signal?

If so i thought the only way to get a signal was to have a big fat aerial on your house, how will a mobile phone pick it up good?

If im totaly wrong then my bad :-)

Amin  Feb. 21, 2013 at 00:33

I would suspect that the old analog TV signal ranges where sent out on very high power long range transmitters and a roof aerial just received the signal.

Mobile phone masts are usually much lower power and cover an approx 1 square mile radius for 2-way radio communication.

So to enable 4g mobile signals you need to be within range of a 4g phone mast and its up to the carriers to ensure there are enough masts in enough places to provide good coverage from their customers.

However if the range had already been full of tv signals no one would be able to get any 4g Reception!!!

judgey  Feb. 21, 2013 at 00:35

Arrr ok i see, did not even think about mobile masts sending the signal for the 4g.

Thanks for the heads up :)

Pondlife  Feb. 21, 2013 at 01:39

Don't think all of the 4g is ex-tv space though as it's a bit disparate.
The 800mhz should work well inside from what I've read.
So 3 didn't get much bit did at least get some of the good stuff. Mind you they all did*...

Aren't o2 and voda due to share if so they look rather good for 4g coverage and depth albeit probably not cost...
Could be why o2 look a bit short on their own.

*well all the networks

judgey  Feb. 21, 2013 at 01:52

I dont understand tho why can they not use a digital signal? There should be lots of space on there, u can fit 4 channels from analog to one digital signal. (thats what i remember from working for ntl) And if there is so many different "mhzs" what is the problem?

sorry again im just thinking at im typing :)

Pondlife  Feb. 21, 2013 at 01:54

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/maps_and_graphs/2013/2/20/1361383871721/Mobile-spectrum-auction-008.png

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/feb/20/4g-auction-smartphones-george-osborne

Suggest voda big winners, 3 lost out. Especially as they don't have sharing agreement in place for 4g.


Were too many slices of spectrum available in the auction and so everyone got a slice of the pie without having to bid that much for it. Rather a mistake in terms of raising funds, could be helpful in terms of pricing I guess but wouldn't stake much on it.

Pondlife  Feb. 21, 2013 at 01:56

I dont understand tho why can they not use a digital signal? There should be lots of space on there, u can fit 4 channels from analog to one digital signal. (thats what i remember from working for ntl) And if there is so many different "mhzs" what is the problem?

sorry again im just thinking at im typing :)


They do use digital signals and have done for some time...
since the arrival of 2g, starting in 1992, not sure when/if analogue was switched off but majority has been digital for fair while.

judgey  Feb. 21, 2013 at 02:00

ok ill shh then and use google lol :-)

Stelph  Feb. 21, 2013 at 09:44

I saw that as an interesting side note the 4g Auction "only" ended up earning 2.4 billion where as the 3G auction netted 22 billion

Suggest voda big winners, 3 lost out.

I would hope so, 3 mobile on a 4G network? Just asking for consumer confusion and lawsuits IMO

AhmadCentral  Feb. 21, 2013 at 10:41

Article is a bit misleading. Three dis not win much in this auction but they have already purchased more than enough spectrum from tmobile to build a large 4g network.

In a bit worried about o2 who only purchased 800mhz specteum. Good for rural areas, but wont be amazing for towns and cities unless o2 really get their act together.

Pondlife  Feb. 21, 2013 at 11:35

Article is a bit misleading. Three dis not win much in this auction but they have already purchased more than enough spectrum from tmobile to build a large 4g network.

In a bit worried about o2 who only purchased 800mhz specteum. Good for rural areas, but wont be amazing for towns and cities unless o2 really get their act together.


Large? not compared to the others, and smaller than their 3g it seems.

Well this should sort o2?
http://www.mobot.net/o2-vodafone-network-merger-goahead-48255
They can't have felt they needed more as the BT purchased bit went for not very much in the scale of things.

AhmadCentral  Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:34

Its enough mate. Three can have a good 4g network with what they have now.

The o2 voda share is good bit its a ran share which means that o2 will still only broadcast on 800mhz frequency and will not have any access to vodafone 2600mhz frequency. So they will not have any 2600mhz which I find a bit odd.

On my phone so I cant explain what I mean fully

Pondlife  Feb. 21, 2013 at 13:13

If that's enough I don't know why the rest wanted more then. Seems tiny amount really.

Sounds like o2 will still be pretty crappy then.

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Ah I see what they mean now, bit odd that they didn't want more then unless aiming to alter use of some of the other spectrum they have.
http://blog.vodafone.co.uk/2012/11/20/better-coverage-fewer-masts-your-complete-guide-to-our-network-joint-venture/

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