Apple wants another $707 million from Samsung

Apple wants another 7 million from SamsungWe heard last week that Apple might seek to up its damage claim to a whopping $3 billion, having already been awarded $1 billion by a California court.

In a motion filed late on Friday, it asked for just a fraction of that: a cool $707 million.

On top of those damages, Apple is looking for a permanent sales ban on offending Samsung products.

That’s the good word according to Reuters, which breaks down the $707 million as follows:

  • $400 million – design infringement
  • $135 million – willful patent infringement
  • $121 million – further damages not considered by the jury previously
  • $50 million – pre-judgement interest

Apple says it wants the injunction to cover "any of the infringing products or any other product with a feature or features not more than colorably different from any of the infringing feature or features in any of the Infringing Products."

Samsung, meanwhile, is asking for a brand new trial. It argues: "The Court's constraints on trial time, witnesses and exhibits were unprecedented for a patent case of this complexity and magnitude, and prevented Samsung from presenting a full and fair case in response to Apple's many claims."

The South Koreans add: "It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies.”

Apple’s moaning now officially includes the Samsung Galaxy Note and Galaxy S III, while Samsung is looking to sue Apple over LTE patent infringement by the iPhone 5.

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Dougal1709  Sep. 24, 2012 at 13:59

I was reading about Apple's new fangled camera on the iPhone 5 that allows you to take panoramic photos by pressing the camera button and panning the camera. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the Samsung designers had copied this functionality, got into a time machine and put it into the Samsing Galaxy S2 back in March 2011. I hope Apple sue for this disgraceful copyright infiringement.

ian2606  Sep. 24, 2012 at 14:12

The lawyers must be laughing all the way through this nonsense. They must be making a fortune.....

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 24, 2012 at 14:36

I was reading about Apple's new fangled camera on the iPhone 5 that allows you to take panoramic photos by pressing the camera button and panning the camera. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the Samsung designers had copied this functionality, got into a time machine and put it into the Samsing Galaxy S2 back in March 2011. I hope Apple sue for this disgraceful copyright infiringement.

You do realise that Apple's Panorama feature works differently, though...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/sep/19/iphone-5-panorama-photographs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG4IVE0xLRg

I haven't used the feature on iOS6 myself, but I did use the S2 and S3, and from everything I've seen and read, Apple's implementation is superior in every way.

There’s a new panorama mode for the camera, too, that comes in handy more often than you might expect. As you swing the phone around you, it stitches many shots together into a seamless, ultra-wide-angle, 28-megapixel photo. Unlike other apps and phones with panorama modes, this one is fully automated and offers a preview of the panorama that materializes as you’re taking it. (For my complete review of iOS 6, see nytimes.com/pogue. ***)
via http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/technology/personaltech/apples-iphone-5-scores-well-with-a-quibble-review.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www
*** = granted, Mr Pogue would say that, wouldn't he ;)

nonsenser  Sep. 24, 2012 at 15:23

Sarcasm!?

Panoramic photos work the same way on xperia devices. Even if there are subtle differences on how it produces the panorama... the user experience of 'pressing take photo and then panning the phone' is the same regardless of the underlying tech. This alone can be considered similar to Samsung being sued over rounded corners.

Though apple's defence of its 'patents' seems to agree with your comment about 'Apple's implementation is superior in every way'. Taking an idea and refining it a little seems to be what apple is all about. How on earth they manage to patent borrowed functionality/technology/design is beyond logical reason.

Only in America... I guess.

Pondlife  Sep. 24, 2012 at 21:47

Personally I've yet to find panorama that useful, maybe it being in iphone will increase ways you can use them.

Pondlife  Sep. 24, 2012 at 21:49

colorably different? Sigh.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 24, 2012 at 22:51

nonsenser,
taking an idea and improving on it isn't all that bad. I for one wouldnt want a pre-iPhone, resistive one-touch plastic screener.

The iPhone changed mobile phones. Completely.
No need to like it - because hey, a lot of companies took Apple's ideas and improved on them ;)
I'm personally not that interested in panorama shots, by the way.
Haven't owned an iPhone in a good while, either.

Pondlife  Sep. 24, 2012 at 23:14

How about a pre iphone capacitative award winning prada, nah I wouldn't either, can't imagine many would want original iphone either though now.

Don't have a problem conceptually with panorama shots, just not much to do with them, need a seriously widescreen monitor to use them as a background :)

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 24, 2012 at 23:37

Oh, I've taken quite a few panoramic shots - incl. with quite a few Xperia models, nonsenser ;)
But it's more of a gimmicky features.
The first Prada, yes, 3 inches of goodness. I remember 10-point multitouch, olephobic glass screen... and 1 million times sold in the 1st 18 months.

Rubisco  Sep. 25, 2012 at 02:05

Of course Apple changed mobile phones. Just like their former trademark adversaries The Beatles 'invented' psychedelic music... by using access to resources and market clout to refine something that already existed and bring it to the masses!

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