Is Apple delaying NFC and leaving it out of iPhone 5?

Is Apple delaying NFC and leaving it out of iPhone 5?Who here really uses NFC? Come on - don't be shy. What about you? At the back?

The fact of the matter is, it's an exciting and fluid technology that has been around for years. But it hasn't quite taken off yet, despite the best efforts of handset makers recently like Nokia, BlackBerry, Samsung, Sony and LG.

Like it or not, the reality is that what NFC needs to really take off is for Apple to get on board - and for the last couple of years we've been waiting with baited breath to see if this will be the iPhone that boasts NFC functionality.

Sadly, though, it looks like despite suggestions to the contrary, the answer to that question will end up being the same for the iPhone 5 as it was for the iPhone 4S a year ago: no.

That's what the Wall Street Journal is saying, anyway - and the WSJ isn't in the habit of reporting baseless rumours. It seems Apple has decided once again to hold back on NFC and let others fight it out for now until the market takes a clearer shape.

It certainly won't be the first time Cupertino has taken such an approach to emerging technologies. After all, Apple has a habit of taking features we've had for years and packaging them up in nice wrapping and then selling them to the world as the next big thing.

Just look at video calling (FaceTime) and voice actions/search (Siri) for example. As one wise sage put it, "They let their competitors do their market research for them."

Instead, the WSJ says, Apple will give us Passbook which is the app we saw trailed during the recent iOS 6 announcement. It'll allow you to collate vouchers, coupons, plane passes, store cards etc in one convenient location like a lot of similar apps already do.

The WSJ suggests - and it's a theory we've heard before - that with Apple already having 400m credit cards registered due to iTunes, what it really wants is to somehow create its own payment network or take a cut of others, and that right now that simply isn't feasible.

Via WSJ

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Pondlife  Jul. 9, 2012 at 21:15

nfc fluid and exciting, hmmm.

JanSt / MOD  Jul. 9, 2012 at 22:29

[quotethe WSJ isn't in the habit of reporting baseless rumours][/quote]
Really? Must be 2 WSJs then. My bad...

JanSt / MOD  Jul. 9, 2012 at 22:30

That aside: I believe they are wrong.

Pondlife  Jul. 9, 2012 at 22:40

Right or wrong I don't see nfc as that enticing.

JanSt / MOD  Jul. 9, 2012 at 22:57

Right or wrong I don't see nfc as that enticing. me either. I hate the very concept!!!!!!!!!!!! NO cashless society!!!!!!!!!

Dentalplan73  Jul. 10, 2012 at 09:06

I have two bank cards with contactless tech, my debit and credit cards and I enjoy using them on small purchases with a quick swipe over the top of the Chip and PIN machine
I'd like nothing better than to see the NFC capabilities of my Galaxy S3 being used in the same manner and I wish the UK banks' apps would support NFC payments via mobile and not just their contactless enabled cards

Stelph  Jul. 10, 2012 at 09:34

Right or wrong I don't see nfc as that enticing. me either. I hate the very concept!!!!!!!!!!!! NO cashless society!!!!!!!!!

I agree and disagree with you, I agree that the cashless option is a bit pap (Infact the only good implementations of NFC involving money are outside phones like the wristbands at festivals where you can load up the wrist band before the event and leave your cash/valuables at home)

However the other potential for NFC in phones is in the area of quick sync/phone set up situations, for example you could code some NFC stickers and have one in your home, one in your car, one at work and each one would tell your phone to change its settings to whatever preset you had done for that area, e.g. when you get home swipe and it turns on wifi (or for guests it would inform the phone what your wifi code was) , car it would turn off wifi and turn on bluetooth to sync with the stereo, work it would turn off wifi and switch to silent..

This is already being worked on for Android
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/nfc-re-tag-application-allows-users-to-re-use-write-only-tags/

and im sure Apple are aware of it and it shouldnt be too hard to implement (plus they could make a nice profit on Apple branded NFC stickers), so id be surprised if it doesnt have some form on NFC support in the phone. At the very least it allows Apple to talk about another magical feature of the next iPhone

Pondlife  Jul. 10, 2012 at 11:27

I can't get excited about a technology to change phone settings either, I'd read about people doing the home nfc sticker thing but still find it meh. Certainly didn't make me think I wish my phone could do that.

That said the idea of Apple liking the sound of iNFC stickers does sound more than plausible.

Pondlife  Jul. 10, 2012 at 12:30

I have two bank cards with contactless tech, my debit and credit cards and I enjoy using them on small purchases with a quick swipe over the top of the Chip and PIN machine
I'd like nothing better than to see the NFC capabilities of my Galaxy S3 being used in the same manner and I wish the UK banks' apps would support NFC payments via mobile and not just their contactless enabled cards


Is it me or does that read more like an advert than anything, apologies if sincere and you really do enjoy paying like that. I derive no special enjoyment from paying in any fashion.
I don't want contactless payments, in fact I'd rather we had chip and pin and still had to sign for things.
I find the idea of getting an expensive phone out just to swipe for a paper, a coffee or some gum rather odd and seems that it'd be a boon for pickpockets.

Dentalplan73  Jul. 10, 2012 at 12:42


Is it me or does that read more like an advert than anything, apologies if sincere and you really do enjoy paying like that. I derive no special enjoyment from paying in any fashion.
I don't want contactless payments, in fact I'd rather we had chip and pin and still had to sign for things.
I find the idea of getting an expensive phone out just to swipe for a paper, a coffee or some gum rather odd and seems that it'd be a boon for pickpockets.


It's you, it certainly wasn't an advert I enjoy the technology in NFC and I'm annoyed it's not more widely used

As for the theft risk: my phone is insured by my bank as part of my account perks plus it's got the Samsung Dive service activated so it can be traced, wiped and blocked if required from remote. If anyone were to use it for contactless purposes I'd be covered by my bank and credit card provider's fraud services

Too many people have replied in such a negative stance. Of course you're entitled to your opinions but shouldn't then respond to someone who sees the positives in a suspicious manner, even suggesting they're somehow advertising the subject matter at discussion

Pondlife  Jul. 10, 2012 at 12:52

Well may read that way to others yet too. Just seemed odd to me, can't imagine ever thinking oh how jolly to pay like this, good for you to find pleasure that way.
Covered or not having things taken is a pain in the ****, especially if away from home.
Thank you for permission to have my own opinions very kind of you.

Dentalplan73  Jul. 10, 2012 at 13:01

Was there any need to be such a sarcastic git in response?

Considering you started this by doubting the believability of my first post I think I was quite restrained in my reply to you and I certainly didn't lower myself to childish sarcasm

At no point did I portray myself as finding using contactless cards 'Jolly'. I enjoy all forms of technology and in a busy cafe at lunchtime it's so much easier to simply swipe my card over the machine, also by not having to insert my card I avoid it becoming damaged (Have you seen the marks and scratches many chip n pin machines leave on our bank cards?)

Yes, having something stolen is terrible but sometimes it cannot be prevented. All I was saying is that I've covered myself by ensuring my phone is either replaced or found with minimum upset to myself

You seem somewhat bitter that I feel my life is in relative good order and that I take precautions to protect myself and my possessions.

After a terrible 13 year marriage which left me broken and with huge debts thanks to my ex-wife I finally find myself in a better financial position with the ability to have contactless cards or the latest phone with NFC. I'm not bragging about it at all, I've always been a gadget fan and like the latest tech but with a wife who was awful with money and selfish I wasn't able to do it

Is your life that hollow you had to take offence to an innocent stranger's point of view? Did you have to resort to sarcasm because I replied to you?

Get a grip.

Pondlife  Jul. 10, 2012 at 13:21

I don't find sarcasm something one has to resort to but merely useful and I didn't take offence at it just found it amusing that you gave me permission to my opinions although apparently I lack permission to write them.
I said that getting a phone out increases risk of theft and so maybe not getting it out could prevent it in some instances. In the way that pickpockets used to like the thieves operate in this area signs as people tended to immediately check their belongings and hence give away locations. All I was saying is that not advertising it to thieves is preferable to hassles of replacement.
I've never had a card so badly damaged that it can't be used even in the old roller and copypaper days.
I'm not bitter about your life couldn't give a monkeys about it really, don't see your marital issues as any concern of mine either, you can keep the rest of your life story for that matter. Any of us could have contactless cards, just seems that several here don't want them.

Pondlife  Jul. 12, 2012 at 11:57

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