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How is Apple Maps in iOS 6?

I'm holding out on updating to iOS 6, but hearing bad things about Maps!

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JanSt / MOD  Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:24

You're kidding, right? :D

Well, anyhow... a) Google are working on a standalone app for iOS - it's already been presented to the appstore for evaluation. b) you can acces both Nokia's and Google's maps via Safari - if you hate the new maps, that is.
Reports are mixed. It seems to depend on where you live.
Also: Late last night I read a few hundred tweets about the awful new maps. Strangely though: at least 50% of those tweets were posted from Android devices.

I would hold off of updating. But NOT because of the maps. There is no jailbreak for iOS 6 for newer devices, yet (4S, iPad2/3 and iPhone 5), and also: without a doubt, Apple will deliver an update for iOS 6 very soon.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:38

I've played with the maps on an iPad 3 for a fair amount of time (the device was with me all day yesterday). I can honestly say, even on the more powerful iPad, the maps and Siri are worse than the Android alternatives.

Even the iOS maps icon throws you off a bloody overpass:
http://dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com/users/37677/screenshots/599674/ios6mapsicondribbble.jpg

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:41

hahahahahaha is that real?

Pondlife  Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:53

My favourite so far is Duncaster.
Still means about 50% weren't from android devices Jan, which still makes for a lot.

Pondlife  Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:57

Maybe as Siri was for 4s over 4, working maps is for 5 over older ones ;)

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 21, 2012 at 11:25

hahahahahaha is that real?
100% legit, it's Interstate 280 in California (right near Apple's HQ, apparently). Here's a satellite image of the actual road:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BykQM05LsXk/T9iRtKudCzI/AAAAAAAAhvE/M0i_-kQI6m4/s1600/iOSMapIcon.jpg

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 21, 2012 at 11:27

Hoover Dam, anyone?
http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/hoover-dam-apple-maps.png?w=536&h=804

Pondlife  Sep. 21, 2012 at 12:58

I think something could be missing there.
Did they say this was beta too?

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 21, 2012 at 13:02

I think something could be missing there.
Did they say this was beta too?

Nope, this is tested, final release software...apparently.

louiselouise  Sep. 22, 2012 at 20:23

I'm sure you've all seen it, but if not: http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1745.jpg

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 22, 2012 at 22:53

Hey... it was Google's fault that Nicaragua invaded Costa Rica :D
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/google-maps-error-blamed-for-nicaraguan-invasion/

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 22, 2012 at 22:58

http://timugon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/google-maps-taiwan-china.jpg

Pondlife  Sep. 23, 2012 at 01:19

Yeah would have made sense to swim from Manchu (I think that says Manchu)

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 23, 2012 at 12:10

http://timugon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/google-maps-taiwan-china.jpg
You realise Google put things like that in as a joke? There are kayak and jet-ski ones too.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 23, 2012 at 13:29

http://timugon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/google-maps-taiwan-china.jpg
You realise Google put things like that in as a joke? There are kayak and jet-ski ones too.

Gee, really :p
Bu,t c'mon matt - they still track the real Santa on Dec 24/25? :(

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 23, 2012 at 14:54

Seriously, though - the week's almost over.
'We' will all get over this. Including Apple.

To pretend Apple made the move 'blindly' or 'stupidly' is ludicrous.
It was a controlled, controllable risk they took. Sure, as with Siri, they could have slapped a "Beta" tag on the new Maps app, but going from non-Beta Gmaps to Beta Apple maps would have been seen as even 'dafter' - Siri in Beta was different, because there was nothing like Siri on previous iDevices.

The people who say, "Jobs was all about the 'perfect' technological experience. Cook messed this up" - you're wrong. Look at iTunes on Windows. It sucks - even iFans admit it.
It's not a simple 'port' from Mac to Win - it's a complete rewrite, and it sucks. It sucks under Cook and it sucked even more under Jobs. But it WAS necessary, because Apple, like Google, want your bucks first and foremost. Smoothness and flawless tech is secondary.

As Mike Dobson, president of map consulting firm TeleMapics, said in a blog post, "There is no really quick fix for Apple's problems in this area, but this should not be news to anyone who is familiar with mapping and the large-scale integration of data that has a spatial component. Of course there appears nowhere to go but up for Apple in mapping."

First reports are coming in on Twitter, FarceBuck and blogs - praising how well the error reporting system that Apple have in place works. Faults detected earlier, apparently, disappeared and were corrected within hours of reporting them to Apple. People will get over it.

Nokia were quite lippy* (*considering 18 months of flops), of course. Now Nokia's maps ARE great - they clinched free off-line mapping and navigation way before Google even thought about it (well, Google make big bucks from online maps).
But oddly Nokia - around 3 corners - defended Apple when they said "see, suckers, you can't make great app, overnight"! A true statement. One that applied to early gmaps, too (remember, initially Google's maps were not only bug-ridden, they were also a serious drain on people's data allowances - no unlimited data back then! People used gmaps initially more like a curiosity. An expensive way to idle away a few £££).

But by saying, "you just can't make great apps overnight", Nokia indirectly defended Apple. And if the error reporting works as well as it has been claimed in recent hours, people will start talking about that...

Again, I don't care for maps on my phone much. I also don't need GPS to find my a*s in tiny Ireland, and I have no reason to geo-tag my photo for dispinteresting purposes.
And lets remember how much controversy Google stirred with their streetview cars.
How they claimed they gathered private WiFi data 'accidentally' while at it (something disproven by EU and US investigations. The equipement and software was screwed onto the G-cars on purpose. No DOUBT)...

So, yep - it was fun taking the p*ss out of arrogant Apple, but ultimately the p*sstake is no more effective than Dems poking fun at Bush in the summer of 2000or 2004...


What irks me is this: the boohhoooo and lolling about the maps made people miss the fact that iOS6 - according to Apple - fixed around 200 iOS security holes!!!! Apple spun this into a positive story, of course; but by doing so, they admitted that iOS 5 had over 200 security holes that needed fixing! Now, unlike a somewhat botched new app launch, that should have been a trending topic. It wasn't. And it shows the seriousness of the debate ;)

Pondlife  Sep. 23, 2012 at 16:24

And presumably saying to those stuck on ios5 that oh well live with those security holes?
Still think the maps issue could cost them more.

I don't see that what Nokia said was any kind of defence tbh, they've been working on them for 6 years apparently and they didn't have to launch them until they were ready. Could easily have introduced it as an alternative to a proper maps apps whilst in this beta stage, but took cheap option and made out it was best maps app going at ios6 and i5 launches. Ok you don't need maps but plenty do.

Nokia's offline mapping sounds great but having tried to use it in South Africa I know that you need it online unless you stick to solely main roads as the detail level of them just isn't there.

I think there's an element of itunes being deliberately slightly rubbish on Windows to try and convince the devotees of ipods and then iphones to switch to macs...

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 23, 2012 at 18:30

And presumably saying to those stuck on ios5 that oh well live with those security holes?
Still think the maps issue could cost them more.

I don't see that what Nokia said was any kind of defence tbh, they've been working on them for 6 years apparently and they didn't have to launch them until they were ready. Could easily have introduced it as an alternative to a proper maps apps whilst in this beta stage, but took cheap option and made out it was best maps app going at ios6 and i5 launches. Ok you don't need maps but plenty do.

Nokia's offline mapping sounds great but having tried to use it in South Africa I know that you need it online unless you stick to solely main roads as the detail level of them just isn't there.

I think there's an element of itunes being deliberately slightly rubbish on Windows to try and convince the devotees of ipods and then iphones to switch to macs...

Agree. No doubt they could make iTunes for Windows better.
As to Nokia's Maps - not sure what "ready" means. They weren't perfect, either, initially.
Aren't 'perfect' now (as you pointed out).

I don't think it'll hurt Apple one bit, tbh. In fact, as the new maps get better, they'll get praise, and free mentions.

On the other hand, one never knows? There's a lot going on that I don't 'get' with regards to what makes people tick, so I may be wrong. Apple may be broke in 2 years.

Or not. When (if) they launch the iPad mini, I'm sure maps will be better. Android fans will prove that the N7 is better. And Cook will prove that it was always going to be a 7 incher.

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