Apple v Samsung: Apple awarded $1bn in damages for patent infringements

Apple v Samsung: Apple awarded bn in damages for patent infringementsWell that didn't take long, didn't it? After the case itself seemed to drag on forever, the jury in the Apple v Samsung court case in the US has reached its verdict in double-quick time, and it's a simple one: Samsung, you're guilty.

The jury found Samsung has clearly infringed on seven of Apple's key patents, and ruled that Sammy must now cough up to the tune of a staggering $1bn.

The patents in question cover bounce-back scrolling functionality, pinch-to-zoom, and tap-to-zoom on the software side, plus a quartet of hardware design patents.

Not every Samsung handset is guilty on every count, but that will be scant consolation to Samsung given the final figure of $1,049,343,540 in damages now hanging over its head. Needless to say, Samsung will appeal the verdict.

To add insult to injury, the jury ruled against Samsung in all of its own infringement claims, effectively ruling that Apple is completely innocent on all counts. The only plus side is that the verdict only covers iPhone design patents. On the tablet front, Samsung is off the hook.

It's a far more one-sided verdict than most were expecting, and is bound to send shock waves reverberating through the smartphone industry – particularly other Android OEMs such as LG and Motorola.

After all, Apple will now surely be confident claims against other device makers would lead to similar verdicts. Time will tell whether it chooses to press its advantage home, or leaves its legal mauling of Samsung as an object lesson.

Either way, both Apple and Samsung will be back in the courts on September 20 for a preliminary injunction hearing on whether to impose a sales ban on some of Samsung's handsets based on the verdict.

For a full breakdown of all the details, check out the 20-page verdict form for yourself.

Via The Verge

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blizzard7  Aug. 25, 2012 at 11:12

Glad to see the US jury came to a completely unbiased verdict on a US company.

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 12:19

shut up! USA USA USA USA USA :D

Stelph  Aug. 25, 2012 at 12:36

SoSamsung were found to violate 3 software patents (which is more googles fault as they licenced android out to samsung) and 4 hardware patent which,if i read the correctly,essentialy are patents for a rectangular shapeddevice with a screen on one side. Seems a bit harsh on samsung

That sound is nokia laughing due to its completly different lumia design range, and HTC and LG soiling themselves that Apple will be after them next since apple could almost push them out of the market I'd they had to do an expensive fine and redesign

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 12:56

Shall I rant, or is it not worth it?

satchef1  Aug. 25, 2012 at 13:29

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/08/apple-samsung-internal-document-mimicry/

That's why Samsung got slapped so hard. Samsung deliberately copied what it identified as the iPhone's key characteristics in order to enhance it's own market position. With that document, it becomes much more difficult to belittle Apple's patents

Andy247  Aug. 25, 2012 at 13:55

The Sky News coverage of this at least reported that the courthouse is less than 10 miles from Apple's headquarters and that the majority of people in that area either work for, or are friends with/related to, an Apple staff member. Samsung never really stood a chance, but hopefully the appeal goes well.

It's hardly a coincidence that globally Apple are being told they're wrong, but on their own doorstep, the company that had enough surplus cash to pay off the US deficit won, is it?

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 13:57

satchef... I sort of agree. And I said it before (Martin alludes to it too) - some of Samsung's devices do stand out as similar where other Android OEMs went for very different designs for both tabs and phones.
On the other hand: matt aside, all lawyers are evil :p

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 16:03

Samsung were always going to get royally screwed over in this case. In all honesty, I was expecting Apple to be granted the full $2.5 billion which they asked for, so $1.051 billion doesn't seem so bad at well under 50% of Apple's original demands.

The good thing is, this all happened in the US and therefore doesn't affect us here in the UK (or Ireland, for Jan).

The i9000 (and its many, many US variants) does look kind of like the iPhone 3GS/3G, but bar that, I think Apple won due to the fact they were fighting on home turf. There's no way a jury of average people, with no legal training, could come to any kind of reasonable decision in a case with so much evidence, so quickly. The fact the jury shot down every single one of Samsung's claims is also a little....suspect.

Jan, why are all lawyers evil? Doesn't everyone have a right to fair and full legal representation? What do you suggest would be a better way of dealing with legal issues, we all live by the 10 commandments, so everyone understands the law? We keep our current laws and force everyone to get their LLB? Btw, I thank you for exempting me from your blanket dislike of the legal profession, if you ever need legal advice....don't ask me, I doubt I could help :p.

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 16:18

No, nobody deserves fair and full legal representation. :p
Never happened. It's just something they advertise ;)

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 16:53

No, nobody deserves fair and full legal representation. :p
Never happened. It's just something they advertise ;)

I feel for you, if that's what you truly believe.

TJ Skywasher  Aug. 25, 2012 at 18:35

About time Samsung got slapped on the wrist, although surely the software on their phones is Android so why didn't Google have to pay up on this occasion? Seriously though since the iPhone and iPad came out every mobile phone and tablet has copied in some way or another so it's hardly surprising Samsung lost.

blizzard7  Aug. 25, 2012 at 20:32

About time Samsung got slapped on the wrist, although surely the software on their phones is Android so why didn't Google have to pay up on this occasion? Seriously though since the iPhone and iPad came out every mobile phone and tablet has copied in some way or another so it's hardly surprising Samsung lost.

The problem wasn't Android (mostly), it was TouchWiz, the skin Samsung put on Android. Either way, the patent system is still broken beyond belief. Most of Apple's patents are just way too vague, abstract or just plain common sense.

Slide to unlock? What so is Apple going to go after slide bolt manufacturers, like the kind you find on toilet cubicle doors?

Bounce-back? This is just common sense. It would be jarring to pull something then have it snap back instantly to where it should be. Imagine flicking to a page in a book then having the pages snap themselves shut when you move your fingers off.

Look? This is arguably the one where Apple has a point, but still it's a large touchscreen with some bezel either side, how different can you make a design? Rounded corners are common sense, it's not as ergonomic to have some sharp corners jutting into your palm.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 20:36

About time Samsung got slapped on the wrist, although surely the software on their phones is Android so why didn't Google have to pay up on this occasion? Seriously though since the iPhone and iPad came out every mobile phone and tablet has copied in some way or another so it's hardly surprising Samsung lost.

The problem wasn't Android (mostly), it was TouchWiz, the skin Samsung put on Android. Either way, the patent system is still broken beyond belief. Most of Apple's patents are just way too vague, abstract or just plain common sense.

Slide to unlock? What so is Apple going to go after slide bolt manufacturers, like the kind you find on toilet cubicle doors?

Bounce-back? This is just common sense. It would be jarring to pull something then have it snap back instantly to where it should be. Imagine flicking to a page in a book then having the pages snap themselves shut when you move your fingers off.

Look? This is arguably the one where Apple has a point, but still it's a large touchscreen with some bezel either side, how different can you make a design? Rounded corners are common sense, it's not as ergonomic to have some sharp corners jutting into your palm.

+1

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 22:56

I disagree with regards to "look". Sure, a bezel and touch panel doesn't seem to leave many options, but look at the Galaxy tabs, and tell me honestly they don't look very iPad-dy compared to, e.g., Sony's tabs, acer's, Toshiba's etc etc... And Touchwiz? Hahaha... sorry, I actually find it so offensive that I don't understand Apple's position... iOS may appear boring, but it's stylishly boring. Touchwiz looks like a sugar-rush kid with crayons was asked to draw iOS after a cursory look at an iPhone.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:09

I disagree with regards to "look". Sure, a bezel and touch panel doesn't seem to leave many options, but look at the Galaxy tabs, and tell me honestly they don't look very iPad-dy compared to, e.g., Sony's tabs, acer's, Toshiba's etc etc... And Touchwiz? Hahaha... sorry, I actually find it so offensive that I don't understand Apple's position... iOS may appear boring, but it's stylishly boring. Touchwiz looks like a sugar-rush kid with crayons was asked to draw iOS after a cursory look at an iPhone.
The ironic thing is, Samsung's tablets were found NOT to infringe on Apple's patents...

In all honesty, I think Apple had a genuine case when it comes to the hardware design of the i9000 (and variants) and the Galaxy Tab 10.1, that's it.

I agree about TW, it doesn't look a thing like iOS. Hell, if I was Apple, I'd be offended if someone likened the UI of TW to the UI of iOS. I sure as hell wouldn't be in court claiming they looked too similar.

blizzard7  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:16

I disagree with regards to "look". Sure, a bezel and touch panel doesn't seem to leave many options, but look at the Galaxy tabs, and tell me honestly they don't look very iPad-dy compared to, e.g., Sony's tabs, acer's, Toshiba's etc etc...

Not quite sure how you're disagreeing there. I said [hardware] look is arguably the place where Apple had a point.

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:27

I disagree with regards to "look". Sure, a bezel and touch panel doesn't seem to leave many options, but look at the Galaxy tabs, and tell me honestly they don't look very iPad-dy compared to, e.g., Sony's tabs, acer's, Toshiba's etc etc...

Not quite sure how you're disagreeing there. I said [hardware] look is arguably the place where Apple had a point.


As I said, I shouldn't comment while tired :p

Sorry, blizzard :(

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:27

Not quite sure how you're disagreeing there.
Because Jan's our resident crazy?

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:28

Not quite sure how you're disagreeing there.[/quote]
Because Jan's our resident crazy?[/quote]
Don't you have an ambulance to chase? :p
(just kidding ;) )

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:28

Not quite sure how you're disagreeing there.
Because Jan's our resident crazy?[/quote]
Don't you have an ambulance to chase? :p
(just kidding ;) )[/quote]
Don't be silly....

Lawyers don't work weekends.

blizzard7  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:35

I disagree with regards to "look". Sure, a bezel and touch panel doesn't seem to leave many options, but look at the Galaxy tabs, and tell me honestly they don't look very iPad-dy compared to, e.g., Sony's tabs, acer's, Toshiba's etc etc...

Not quite sure how you're disagreeing there. I said [hardware] look is arguably the place where Apple had a point.


As I said, I shouldn't comment while tired :p

Sorry, blizzard :(


Apology accepted. *hug*

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 25, 2012 at 23:36

I disagree with regards to "look". Sure, a bezel and touch panel doesn't seem to leave many options, but look at the Galaxy tabs, and tell me honestly they don't look very iPad-dy compared to, e.g., Sony's tabs, acer's, Toshiba's etc etc...

Not quite sure how you're disagreeing there. I said [hardware] look is arguably the place where Apple had a point.


As I said, I shouldn't comment while tired :p

Sorry, blizzard :(


Apology accepted. *hug*

Aww, Mobot love :).

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 26, 2012 at 00:19

<3

sparkymark75  Aug. 26, 2012 at 16:45

An unexpected side-effect Apple may not have been expecting: https://plus.google.com/u/0/114476892281222708332/posts/246srfbqg6G

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 26, 2012 at 16:48

An unexpected side-effect Apple may not have been expecting: https://plus.google.com/u/0/114476892281222708332/posts/246srfbqg6G
That's absolutely brilliant, genuinely brought a smile to my (normally cynical and sarcastic) face :D.

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