Controversial nano-SIM vote postponed

Controversial nano-SIM vote postponedBloomin’ ‘eck, this whole nano-SIM thing seems to be getting blown out of proportion a bit.

You’d think Apple, Nokia and RIM were arguing over something massively important, but a nano-SIM is simply this: two-thirds the size of a micro-SIM. Is it really that big a deal, guys?

You might recall Apple was hoping to push through its proposed nano-SIM design, and while it was said to have the backing of European networks, manufacturers such as Motorola, Nokia and RIM expressed patent-related fears.

Team Cupertino promised “an unequivocal commitment to grant royalty-free licenses to any Apple patents essential to nano-SIM”, but that wasn't enough to satisfy the Californians’ rivals.

Throughout the whole debacle, Nokia has stressed the “technical superiority” of its design, and it’s unwilling to budge.

Mark Durrant, Nokia’s director of communications, yelled: "The principal issues remain the technical superiority of our proposal and that Apple's proposal does not meet the pre-agreed ETSI requirements. Apple's proposal for royalty free licensing seems no more than an attempt to devalue the intellectual property of others."

To make things even more complicated, RIM has moved to stop voting by proxy, and suggests that various members of Apple have tactically registered under different companies.

Ultimately, the vote has now been postponed for at least 30 days. I’m speechless.

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15 comments

Pondlife  Mar. 30, 2012 at 12:10

Do RIM get much of a say anymore?

blizzard7  Mar. 30, 2012 at 12:23

RIM SIM?

jmarcelino  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:01

To make matters worse The Verge is reporting that Sandisk is now threatening to sue Nokia over their proposed nanoSIM, claiming it's too similar to the design of a microSD.

It seems you can also fit Nokia's nanoSIM into a microSD slot by mistake.

http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/gkpm/ScreenShot2012-03-30at125150copy.png

jmarcelino  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:09

Btw I am disappoint with Lewis choice of photo.
http://iphone.mythailandblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/microsimcard.jpg

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:10

Btw I am disappoint with Lewis choice of photo.
http://iphone.mythailandblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/microsimcard.jpg

+1

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:11

:p
That is a much better photo than anything Lewis ever "produced"... it has depth, subtexts and a beautiful mise en scene :p

Pondlife  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:16

Doesn't seem too similar to me really. If it can get wedged in wrong slot that's a worry though. Did read that the apple nano sim could get wedged in ordinary sim slot too though.

Stelph  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:16

Was it JanSt who mentioned that in the Lumina the microSIM and draw takes up almost as much room as a standard sim?

TBH this is almost as much a dead end development as the race for the thinnest smartphone, the size of the sim does not have any affect on the usability of the phone, and I only want manufacturers to worry about making the phone more usuable (i.e. better battery life), until a manufacturer can prove that the Nano has a major advantage over a standard or micro sim I am not convinced or interested TBH

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:23

Yep. The N9 has a microsim slide that is bigger than the 1st iPhone's normal sim slide... Or, c'mon: the Xperia S, people?!!!! It has a whole bloody back cover just for the microsim...hahaha you could fit a credit card in there, really.

Pondlife  Mar. 30, 2012 at 13:31

Why is there such a push for slimmer and slimmer phones anyway, find the older larger ones fit the hand better on the whole. Is it just for the tiny demo stand women?

jmarcelino  Mar. 30, 2012 at 16:16

But this IS about making battery life longer. Even now the MicroSIM slot is huge compared to the rest of the electronics, as the following teardown photo shows:

http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/gkpm/ScreenShot2012-03-30at160737-1.jpg

The CPU can be made smaller by moving to a smaller manufacturing process, but that MicroSIM slot will still be the dominant thing in the hardware. If they can make it smaller they can have a larger a battery.

blizzard7  Mar. 30, 2012 at 16:57

Uhh... Do you really think shaving off 2.7mm x 3mm from a sliver of plastic is going to make a difference to the battery?

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 30, 2012 at 17:01

Uhh... Do you really think shaving off 2.7mm x 3mm from a sliver of plastic is going to make a difference to the battery?

Maybe in the long run?
Currently it seems kinda ludicrous. I already mentioned the Sony Xperia S with its pointless
lightband, and the biggest (micro) sim 'slot' in history... Dito the N9, dito the iPhone (hey, if space was an issue, how about killing that ginormous usb connector?)

jmarcelino  Mar. 30, 2012 at 19:59

Uhh... Do you really think shaving off 2.7mm x 3mm from a sliver of plastic is going to make a difference to the battery?

What really matters on the circuit board is surface area, and the proposed nanoSIM takes up 108.24 mm² while the current microSIM is 180mm² - that's a near 40% reduction in area.

(hey, if space was an issue, how about killing that ginormous usb connector?)

The iPod connector may be lengthy but since the first iPhone it's been integrated into the speaker/microphone assembly, which for physical sound wave reasons can't be made much smaller. It's not really wasted space.

Plus there's not many connectors with as many features as it has, microUSB doesn't even come close (no VGA output, analog audio and you need a new MHL-compatible TV to charge in HDMI mode are just three examples )

jmarcelino  Mar. 30, 2012 at 20:00

Uhh... Do you really think shaving off 2.7mm x 3mm from a sliver of plastic is going to make a difference to the battery?

What really matters on the circuit board is surface area, and the proposed nanoSIM takes up 108.24 mm² while the current microSIM is 180mm² - that's a near 40% reduction in area. If they can achieve that without major changes, why not?

(hey, if space was an issue, how about killing that ginormous usb connector?)

The iPod connector may be lengthy but since the first iPhone it's been integrated into the speaker/microphone assembly, which for physical sound wave reasons can't be made much smaller. It's not really space they could use unless they radically changed the speaker and microphone design.

Plus there's not many connectors with as many features as it has, microUSB doesn't even come close (no VGA output, no analog audio and you need a new MHL-compatible TV to charge in HDMI mode are just three examples )

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