Current Windows Phones to get Apollo lite?

Current Windows Phones to get Apollo lite?It’s a story we’ve rambled on about before (once or twice), and now we’re hearing the same song yet again: no Apollo for the current range of Windows Phone handsets.

However, before you start sobbing, it’s suggested there’ll be some form of compensation – possibly a stripped down version of Windows Phone Apollo.

That’s the story from Germany’s Wirtschafts Woche (Business Week), ably relayed – er, in English – by the folks at WMPoweruser.

One source yells: “An update is not technically possible because Windows Mobile 8 uses different chip sets.” See, while Tango lowers the minimum specs, Apollo will stretch the top end, paving the way for – wait for it – multi-core action.

Instead, a lite version of Apollo, possibly called Windows Phone 7.6 or 7.7, will make its way to the existing WP range, including the just-released Nokia Lumia 900. Several hundred quid well spent.

One unnamed - and decidedly optimistic - Microsoft chap reckons the solution will be gratefully accepted by the Windows Phone userbase. He says: ”If people have the same functions on their smartphones, they do not care what version number the operating system is.”

I have to agree. While some fanatics will inevitably lose sleep over the lack of full fat Apollo, the majority of users ain’t gonna care. We, my geeky friends, are very much in the minority.

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Stelph  Jun. 7, 2012 at 16:11

Its quite sad that WP7 is getting fragmented like this, as annoying as it is to say you have to hand it to Apple they certainly got it right with keeping fragmentation at a minimum. WP7 started off well and should have learned from Androids mistakes, but seems like they have forgotted them :(

JanSt / MOD  Jun. 7, 2012 at 16:37

Well...
This is Microsoft. How many 'versions' of Vista? Windows 7?
Windows is fragmented. Windows 8 won't play DVDs without OEM bloatware or paid-for apps... 2012! When Vista was launched, MS 'forgot' about syncing WinMo phones. Active Sync didn't work on Vista. Took a while to fix the oversight!
Vista's "Per user queued error report" bug existed for OVER a year!
€400 netbooks with the power to run Home Premium 7 come with Basic - and people cannot change the wallpaper?!

Hahaha.... Microsoft ruled the universe for so long they have started to believe in their own infallibility! Bad thing, that!

I'm fairly certain in 6 months or 6 years we will find out just how much money flowed from Redmond to IDC ;) http://www.mobot.net/idc-sticking-guns-windows-phones-2016-success-42856 - as a replay of the Gartner ("Vista Ready") scandal...

It's time they smelled the coffee.
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matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 7, 2012 at 16:44

I'm coming around to Jan's way of thinking (well, regarding M$ and Windows anyway). W8 was the final nail in the coffin for me, they've jammed a tablet friendly OS onto desktop computers and it just doesn't work. The original developer preview was alright (hell, it was faster than W7) as you could get the start menu back with one registry edit. The fact that you're stuck with the sh*tty Metro UI on all the later versions of W8, which will include the final retail copy, is beyond ridiculous.

The only reason I still use Windows is for the familiarly of the UI, once that's gone in W8 there's nothing tying me to the Windows platform any more. For what I use a computer for, Chrome OS is looking ever more attractive.

girthdiggler  Jun. 7, 2012 at 17:29

I'm coming around to Jan's way of thinking (well, regarding M$ and Windows anyway). W8 was the final nail in the coffin for me, they've jammed a tablet friendly OS onto desktop computers and it just doesn't work. The original developer preview was alright (hell, it was faster than W7) as you could get the start menu back with one registry edit. The fact that you're stuck with the sh*tty Metro UI on all the later versions of W8, which will include the final retail copy, is beyond ridiculous.

The only reason I still use Windows is for the familiarly of the UI, once that's gone in W8 there's nothing tying me to the Windows platform any more. For what I use a computer for, Chrome OS is looking ever more attractive.


Well then it sounds like you're a browser only user that doesn't care whether google reads and sells your data or not.

satchef1  Jun. 7, 2012 at 18:17

Its quite sad that WP7 is getting fragmented like this, as annoying as it is to say you have to hand it to Apple they certainly got it right with keeping fragmentation at a minimum. WP7 started off well and should have learned from Androids mistakes, but seems like they have forgotted them :(

Is it fragmenting though? Surely it all depends on how that affects the end-user? These quotes pretty much confirm that existing hardware can't run Windows 8, and will be staying on Windows Embedded Compact. Other than that, the only other information here is ”If people have the same functions on their smartphones, they do not care what version number the operating system is.", hinting that both the Windows 8 and Windows Embedded Compact versions of Windows Phone 8 will have the same (or similar) features. From that information, the conclusion would be that the platform isn't fragmenting. The decision to rebuild Windows Phone 8 on Windows Embedded Compact is likely a sensible one; I'd rather not have my Windows Phone turned in to a paperweight by an OS that was designed for more powerful hardware (I had enough of that with the iPhone 3G on iOS 4).

Of course, I'd be surprised if the old phones get all of the new features, and there will be app incompatibilities, but that's the case on iOS as well. On that platform, some new software features have been restricted to new devices (Siri) and some software won't run on older, less-powerful hardware. That's just par for the course.

Microsoft has previously alluded to Apple forcing customers to buy new handsets by releasing updates which slow down their current phones, so this solution appears to have been in the works for some time.
This is kinda interesting too. I'm wondering where WPpoweruser got this info from? It does match my experience of iOS devices (1st gen iPod Touch, iPhone 3G, 1st gen iPad) and, as a result, I now won't touch Apple hardware with a bargepole.

matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 7, 2012 at 18:45

I'm coming around to Jan's way of thinking (well, regarding M$ and Windows anyway). W8 was the final nail in the coffin for me, they've jammed a tablet friendly OS onto desktop computers and it just doesn't work. The original developer preview was alright (hell, it was faster than W7) as you could get the start menu back with one registry edit. The fact that you're stuck with the sh*tty Metro UI on all the later versions of W8, which will include the final retail copy, is beyond ridiculous.

The only reason I still use Windows is for the familiarly of the UI, once that's gone in W8 there's nothing tying me to the Windows platform any more. For what I use a computer for, Chrome OS is looking ever more attractive.


Well then it sounds like you're a browser only user that doesn't care whether google reads and sells your data or not.

I am becoming more and more of a browser only PC user. I use Google Docs instead of M$ Office and I use Chrome as my browser on all the PCs I use as well as on my phone. If I want to game I'll just use my Xbox as it's far less expensive than trying to maintain a gaming PC. As for big, evil Google selling my data, anything important that I do on my computer is encrypted and anything else, I don't really care what Google do with. They're more than welcome to my Mobot, HUKD, XDA and Techradar history (and YouTube, but that has SSL encryption nowadays).

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