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How much faster will 4G be realistically?

Is 4G a lot faster than 3G? Will browsing on smartphones suddenly be lightning fast in 4G areas?

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Treab  Aug. 15, 2012 at 20:17

in the uk? it should be alot faster... with the right phone... but we all know it wont be.

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 20:43

Going to depend on the network really. Some comparison figures in us market
http://www.pcworld.com/article/253808/3g_and_4g_wireless_speed_showdown_which_networks_are_fastest.html
At the extreme someone going from sprint 3g to at&t 4g could get 15x faster access, going from t-mobile 3g to sprint 4g would actually get slower on the other hand.

Worth considering that the tmobile 4g in that data is actually 3g 42mbps.

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 20:45

4g will presumably get faster over time as 3g has but will likely need new devices for each major step up in speed.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 20:56

4g will presumably get faster over time as 3g has but will likely need new devices for each major step up in speed.
Also, more people = less speed, as with 3G in the UK.

blizzard7  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:02

It'll be noticeably faster, but the ping will still be awful. Don't expect to tether your console any time soon.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:07

It'll be noticeably faster, but the ping will still be awful. Don't expect to tether your console any time soon.
True, it'll also still only cover the areas, which 3G currently covers (namely; the profitable ones).

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:12

Verizon (which seems to be the best network in the US, from what I know), has massively variable LTE speeds. I've seen videos of people getting everything from ~5mbps to over 50mbps. "How fast will 4G be realistically?" seems to depends on where you live and what device you're connected to the network via.

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:18

Well not tethering for gaming no, but erm I've heard that tethering 3g on xbox for netflix and lovefilm works well even on HD.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:22

Well not tethering for gaming no, but erm I've heard that tethering 3g on xbox for netflix and lovefilm works well even on HD.
I want to try it, but I don't have an Xbox with Wi-Fi, so I'd have to share the connection with my old netbook...which I'm too lazy to set up.

blizzard7  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:46

Well not tethering for gaming no, but erm I've heard that tethering 3g on xbox for netflix and lovefilm works well even on HD.

I think I've tried tethering to my Xbox once and it just kept dropping out. I can imagine if you get it working, it being no different to tethering to a laptop, so if your speeds are high enough, streaming is feasible.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:50

Well not tethering for gaming no, but erm I've heard that tethering 3g on xbox for netflix and lovefilm works well even on HD.

I think I've tried tethering to my Xbox once and it just kept dropping out. I can imagine if you get it working, it being no different to tethering to a laptop, so if your speeds are high enough, streaming is feasible.

You're right, it's possible with enough bandwidth. Gaming, like you said, would still be awful, though, due to the awful ping.

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 21:59

Mainly heard of it being used with a dongle on a 3g wifi router and that does work more consistently and smoother than tether from a phone erm apparently.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 22:02

Mainly heard of it being used with a dongle on a 3g wifi router and that does work more consistently and smoother than tether from a phone erm apparently.
It does, I watched a video the other day on why tethering is unreliable and unstable. It was quite interesting, I shall try and locate it...

Didn't take long, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxRqzHQ3CCw

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 22:04

Surely would depend on the sort of gaming, certainly wouldn't want to try 3ps or heavy duty rts on it..

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 22:09

Surely would depend on the sort of gaming, certainly wouldn't want to try 3ps or heavy duty rts on it..
I guess something really slow paced which maybe only updated scores via the internet as opposed to "live playing" with other people over the internet might be okay.

blizzard7  Aug. 15, 2012 at 22:45

Surely would depend on the sort of gaming, certainly wouldn't want to try 3ps or heavy duty rts on it..

Maybe something like Uno at a push :p

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 22:47

Surely would depend on the sort of gaming, certainly wouldn't want to try 3ps or heavy duty rts on it..

Maybe something like Uno at a push :p

I was thinking Forza...but only single player where it uploads your times to a leaderboard. I think a full on multi-player race may turn into an absolute lag-fest :p.

blizzard7  Aug. 15, 2012 at 22:50

Surely would depend on the sort of gaming, certainly wouldn't want to try 3ps or heavy duty rts on it..

Maybe something like Uno at a push :p

I was thinking Forza...but only single player where it uploads your times to a leaderboard. I think a full on multi-player race may turn into an absolute lag-fest :p.


Leaderboards, yeah I can see that, but as you say, any sort of simultaneous gaming would be a disaster. You'd basically be a quarter of a second behind all the time and be jittering around the track to everyone else.

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 23:03

Could test this next time I get gold live. Preferably once upload to google music has finished too, only 2,200 odd songs to go.

Video is interesting, doesn't explain why even keeping phone in same window front location as router would lead to worse connection than using dongle and router though. But guessing that it's lower powered for one thing.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 23:08

Could test this next time I get gold live. Preferably once upload to google music has finished too, only 2,200 odd songs to go.

Video is interesting

You're uploading all of that via 3G? I feel for you...If it was me, I'd do it at work ;).

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 23:13

It's done 7,000+ already though so not bad going and much of it done while asleep, updated all my steam games on gaming pc over the weekend on connection too lol.
Online poker atm while it carries on uploading too.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 23:15

It's done 7,000+ already though so not bad going and much of it done while asleep, updated all my steam games on gaming pc over the weekend on connection too lol.
I guess you have truly unlimited data, then :p? 3 or T-Mob? Whichever it is, they're definitely sticking to their "truly unlimited", good on them :).

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 23:17

Phone networks are pretty inefficient if they work how he describes it. Sounds like it'd be more power efficient for networks and handsets if towers were switched more frequently

Pondlife  Aug. 15, 2012 at 23:22

I guess you have truly unlimited data, then :p? 3 or T-Mob? Whichever it is, they're definitely sticking to their "truly unlimited", good on them :).

Had to test a new wifi N dongle so needed to download a bit on gaming pc, steam games updates 15-20gb maybe.. 3 this time, T mob have taken the hit before though.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 15, 2012 at 23:29

I guess you have truly unlimited data, then :p? 3 or T-Mob? Whichever it is, they're definitely sticking to their "truly unlimited", good on them :).

Had to test a new wifi N dongle so needed to download a bit on gaming pc, steam games updates 15-20gb maybe.. 3 this time, T mob have taken the hit before though.

What kinda speeds are you pulling with 3? They're usually quite good, aren't they (if you have a signal)?

Also, do you know if T-Mob's new tethering rules affect existing contracts? I can't imagine they do, as they required a change in T&Cs, but I was just wondering if they'd found some sneaky way around it?

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