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Google Nexus 4; What Do You Guys Think?

I'm seriously considering replacing my S2 with a 16GB Nexus 4. My S2 is on its last legs nowadays (the screws keep falling out the back from having it open so many times, the menu/back key lights don't work any more, the battery is totally shot and from a the cosmetic side it's more than a little rough around the edges).

What do you guys think of the N4? Any and all opinions are welcome, positive or negative, I just want to hear the views of fellow tech lovers before I replace the best phone I've ever owned.

Thanks in advance.

Most Useful Answer matt101101  Nov. 3, 2012 at 04:08

It all depends on the two downfalls of the nexus 4.

Battery and memory. Are you happy with an average battery and about 11-12gb of usable storage?

The battery is positively generous compared to that of an (old and heavily used) S2.

The memory is the only issue I have, if only it had an SD card slot or a 32GB model...

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Jim988  Nov. 3, 2012 at 03:55

It all depends on the two downfalls of the nexus 4.

Battery and memory. Are you happy with an average battery and about 11-12gb of usable storage?

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 04:08

It all depends on the two downfalls of the nexus 4.

Battery and memory. Are you happy with an average battery and about 11-12gb of usable storage?

The battery is positively generous compared to that of an (old and heavily used) S2.

The memory is the only issue I have, if only it had an SD card slot or a 32GB model...

JanSt / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 07:10

why don't you buy an S2 if it's the best phone you ever had? There have to be good offers.

other than that: connect the S2 to your PC, open explorer, look at the files and see how many of them you accessed in the last week. last 2 weeks...do you need more than 11GB?
that's all I can say.

Pondlife  Nov. 3, 2012 at 10:08

Or a new battery (isn't one of the plus points on the s2 that you can?) Though that won't help with the screws.

I like the thinking on the 2nd part Jan.

That said I'm liking the look of the Nexus, though as Jan often points out about the wp8 phones might be nice to see some reviews before deciding. (Though reviews of both are now starting to appear) I really do think we could see a 32gb version though but not for several months.

Amin  Nov. 3, 2012 at 12:02

Nexus 4 beats the s2 hands down. Stock jellybean is such a pleasure its unbelievable.

And after a quick root/busybox/thme manager install. you can have touch wizz icons. add nova launcher into the mix and you have a super duper high speed blindingly fast phone that resembles Samsung icon eyecandy.


No contest in my opinion really.


PS if you need more space? put your music on google music (20k songs) and carry a tiny £1 mhl cable with you. personally i have a usb3.0 64gb usb stick on my keys. more than enough storage any time.

:)

Jim988  Nov. 3, 2012 at 12:07

Price is also important, if your on a budget then there's simply no contest. Nexus 4 is the best value for money phone by miles.

Amin  Nov. 3, 2012 at 12:08

Amin  Nov. 3, 2012 at 12:09

Nexus 4 beats the S3 IMO and its so much cheaper than s3. and the s3 has crappy plastic build quality. Nexus 4 is gorilla glass front and back!!!

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 14:57

Cheers for the views and opinions, guys. I hadn't thought of just using a USB OTG cable and a memory stick (or a memory card reader with the 32GB card from my S2 in).

Price isn't really of any importance to me, it's great that it's so cheap but it's not like it's the only decent phone I could buy. What attracts me more than anything is the thought of the Nexus updates, not waiting around for months for CyanogenMod to actually get the latest version of Android working properly on the phone I happen to own will be a nice experience.

As for making it look like it's running TouchWiz, I'm okay on that front, I dislike TW with a passion. I've been running various versions of stock Android on my S2 for a very long time now :p.

Jan, I had a look at my memory usage, once I'd cleared out all the crap (one of the issues with having more memory than you need), I'm only using ~5.5GB on my phone since I moved all my music to an iPod Touch, so memory isn't going to be an instant (or even near term) issue, I don't think.

Getting another S2 is a bit stupid, they're still ~£200 used and way more than that new, and they're packing rapidly ageing technology nowadays, there's a noticeable difference in real life speed and fluidity between my S2 (running stock JB) and a friend a work's S3 (running network branded TouchWiz).

I'll definitely wait for some reliable, full reviews to come out (Techradar, MoDaCo etc) and as long as they don't find any massive issues with the phone once they've used it for a while, the N4 looks like being my next device.

Cheers for the help guys :).

Pondlife  Nov. 3, 2012 at 15:44

Interesting as I remember when the s3 came out you said it was no quicker so guess they've done some work on that.
As long as we get a review from you too :)

There's an interesting review on the Verge.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3589280/google-nexus-4-review
They broke the glass on the back already...

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 15:52

Interesting as I remember when the s3 came out you said it was no quicker so guess they've done some work on that.
As long as we get a review from you too :)

There's an interesting review on the Verge.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3589280/google-nexus-4-review
They broke the glass on the back already...

Aye, they've definitely improved the software on the S3 since its launch. It now hands down beats my S2 in pretty much every task, even though it has to push all those extra pixels around.

I've literally just read The Verge's review of the N4, it seems pretty positive. Their overall score has obviously been dragged down by the 6/10 they gave the section in which they complain about the lack of LTE (something I don't care about, at all).

If I get an N4 (which I most likely will), I shall write a review of it, though it'll be far more brief and to the point than The Verge, Engadget etc reviews.

Pondlife  Nov. 3, 2012 at 17:24

Fair play to samsung for sorting it out then.
Yeah I thought ah well only the lte they don't like and ee have made that irrelevant for now. Was surprised they broke the casing already though and did think that could possibly be an issue as I know you don't do cases.

Good I thought the Verge's review was rather waffly in places. A tighter one would be nice, will be looking for the modaco one too.
Keep seeing more bits and bobs that people've found in 4.2, scanner for non market apps being latest

JanSt / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 19:40

matt, are you interested in a Note 2? If so, wink 2x !

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 19:59

matt, are you interested in a Note 2? If so, wink 2x !
Everything has its price...tell me more...

JanSt / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 20:19

Not here ;) you can DM me on Twitter?

JanSt / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 20:24

I just DM'ed you

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 20:27

I shall go find it, cheers.

Pondlife  Nov. 3, 2012 at 20:37

So your experiment has ended then Jan

JanSt / MOD  Nov. 3, 2012 at 20:39

I have another week with it. Great phone, tbh. But too big for me. Though, I'm tempted...

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 4, 2012 at 00:00

I have another week with it. Great phone, tbh. But too big for me. Though, I'm tempted...
I'll have a look on Monday, I have a feeling I wouldn't get along with it on an everyday basis. That's how I felt about the original Note anyway, also, it's (with shipping) another £100 over the more powerful, higher resolution, quicker update receiving N4.

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 4, 2012 at 00:49

Fair play to samsung for sorting it out then.
Yeah I thought ah well only the lte they don't like and ee have made that irrelevant for now. Was surprised they broke the casing already though and did think that could possibly be an issue as I know you don't do cases.

Good I thought the Verge's review was rather waffly in places. A tighter one would be nice, will be looking for the modaco one too.
Keep seeing more bits and bobs that people've found in 4.2, scanner for non market apps being latest

I think Google have done the right thing excluding LTE from the N4, I mean, look how well the Verizon Galaxy Nexus went... The fact they managed to break the back is a bit worrying, but Engadget said the exact opposite, that they'd dropped the device and the back was absolutely fine, I guess it's a matter of luck (or lack of).

The sideloaded app security looks like a good thing for noobs, it also works with apps from other app stores, such as the Amazon App Store.

Google have finally managed to implement quick settings into stock Android too, something I've been waiting for for, literally, years.

All big reviewers waffle, I get the feeling that they think people find a longer review to be more comprehensive, so they pack it full of largely irrelevant crap and repeat themselves just to pad it out. Also, specific to the N4, all the reviews I've seen have been American, so they've all been hung up on the fact that it doesn't have LTE support, which, if that's the phone's biggest negative, it's perfect for the UK.

Pondlife  Nov. 4, 2012 at 01:05

None of the galaxy nexus versions were sellers though. Not read the engadget one yet. Sounds more positive though.

Sounds like a good idea then.

Yeah, not sure it has the buttons I want but yep do always use it in cm. The double drag seems good way to implement it.

Yeah that's a point, mind you still find I want answers to things they don't cover, that packing and repeating sounds like some essays I wrote at school. I guess the americans would get them first, one reason I like the modaco ones, trouble is they all sound appealing when Paul writes them. (like the new d1 quad review) Yeah does seem well suited to the uk. Mind you a lot of areas in US don't seem to have 4g either so think they could be more rounded in reviews.

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 4, 2012 at 01:49

Yeah, but the Verizon GNex wasn't even a proper Nexus device, it didn't get the updates on time and it had carrier bloatware on it.

I think we all wrote padded out essays with many repeated points when we were at school, though nowadays I guess it's less common with the invention of Wikipedia.

Paul's reviews always make things sound enticing, even stuff I know I don't really want. It's Techradar's review of the N4 I'm really looking forward to, they're detailed, balanced and most importantly, located in the UK.

I think you're right, 4G in the US seems to be confined to large cities and not a lot of other places (though not quite as extreme as it is here in the UK). Also, with different countries/carriers using different bands for LTE, Google would have had a hard time making a worldwide compatible LTE phone, especially for anywhere near the current price point. Talking of price points, have you seen how much LG are asking for the N4? It's absolutely hilarious.

Pondlife  Nov. 4, 2012 at 12:17

Networks really do have too much say in us.

I'd skip the Telegraphs review.

Nope missed that entirely, how much?

matt101101 / MOD  Nov. 4, 2012 at 12:50

Networks really do have too much say in us.

I'd skip the Telegraphs review.

Nope missed that entirely, how much?

Give this a read if you fancy a laugh:
http://thenextweb.com/google/2012/11/03/spanish-phone-retailer-suspends-plan-to-stock-the-nexus-4-as-lg-hikes-its-retail-price/

I think everyone always ignores Telegraph reviews, they're crap most of the time. I think it's pretty obvious to anyone who knows anything about technology that the N4 is not a 3.5 star phone.

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