Fatboyneverslim

Help... Upgrade time! (No Arguments please!)

Long time reader, First time poster!

Unfortunately I have come to this dreaded time and for once I am unable to decide :|

My past 3/4 phones have been HTC (Existing phone is HTC Sensation) and I would rather stick with Android. (Not a huge fan of either iOS or Windows). Originally I was stuck between the obvious 3... One, S4 & Z. But I am unable to decide. Any opinions/other ideas? (I have thought about Note 2 & Nexus 4 possibly?)

Will be used to browse the internet during lunch break most days as well as casual app use.

All help would be much appreciated!

Most Useful Answer JanSt  Jun. 21, 2013 at 08:19

I saw the headline - no arguments. Well, as a mod here I like that. But I'm making one anyway:

Looking for a car; will be used for schoolrun and weekly garbage run to the landfill site. Porsche or Ferrari?

Seriously, OP, you describe a usage pattern that any midrange phone can comfortably deliver.
Why are you even looking at high-end models? I'm not teasing or being funny - have we all lost our mind a bit? You don't even mention videos, photography, docs editing, social networking, file share etc... But you consider a Note with a stylus?

Just curious, really, since I reckon secretly that 80% + of phone owners have fallen into arms race mode. Totally over equipped and paying for it.
An Ascend G510 would probably do everything you describe for a quarter of the money.

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AhmadCentral  Jun. 20, 2013 at 19:13

HTC One would suit you well. It's a good casual/social phone and runs really snappy and fast. Also it has HTC Sense which is something you're used to.

Would not recommend the Z as it's not as good. (unless you want a waterproof phone)
The S4 is similar to the HTC One but just has a memory card and removable battery. Things that won't affect you right?

Only go for the Note 2 if you want a large screen and pen.
Only go for the Nexus 4 if you're buying it outright and off contract.

Fatboyneverslim  Jun. 20, 2013 at 19:36

Thanks for the heads up. To be honest you summed up my thought pattern so far! Only thing I am slightly worried about is the difference in screen between S4 V One and which would be better?

The Note 2 I wouldn't mind the bigger screen and better battery life, Nexus 4 I like the idea of wireless charging but not the additional costs etc!

AhmadCentral  Jun. 20, 2013 at 20:20

Thanks for the heads up. To be honest you summed up my thought pattern so far! Only thing I am slightly worried about is the difference in screen between S4 V One and which would be better?

The Note 2 I wouldn't mind the bigger screen and better battery life, Nexus 4 I like the idea of wireless charging but not the additional costs etc!


Screen difference is nothing you or i would be interested in. It's literally tiny tiny differences that just don't matter when it comes to the S4 and HTC One. The S4 is ever so slightly better due to the super amoled arrangement and the use of gorilla glass 3. But the One has a slightly higher PPI due to the ever so smaller screen, also it's a bit brighter i think. But like i said thats just nitpicking. When you look at the two screens you're not going to see a usable difference.

Have a look at the Note 2 in person and see if you like the design and style. Also worth noting that we MAY see a note 3 in 3-5 months from now.

I'd rule out the Nexus 4 unless you're buying it off contract or get it super cheap on contract.

matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 21, 2013 at 00:57

My recommendations:

Ignore the Nexus 4 and Xperia Z, they're both inferior phones when compared to all the others you're looking at.

If a removable battery and Micro SD card slot mean a lot to you, you can exclude the HTC One, if not, I'd recommend the One over the S4 (my hatred of PenTile displays stands true, even if it's a 1080p PeTile display).

The Note 2 is the least powerful of all the devices you're looking at (though that's a pretty hilarious statement since the N2 is still an absolute beast when it comes to pure power) but it has a big display and the S-Pen. Personally, I could live without the S-Pen, but after 6 months of using a 5.5" display, I would never willingly go back to using a "normal" sized smartphone; that big display just grows on you too much. Not to mention, the battery life on the N2 is amazing. It also has a removable battery and expandable storage, the same as the S4.

As Ahmad said, there will likely be a Note 3 announced at IFA in September, so you might want to wait for that. My educated guess would be that it'll have a 6" 1080p display, a Snapdragon 800 processor and either 2 or 3GB of RAM. Its battery life is likely to be amazing (even more so than the N2) and it's also likely to have a removable battery and expandable storage, the same as all other high-end Samsung devices.

TL;DR: If you want a phablet, wait for the Note 3. If you want a "normal" sized smartphone, it's between the One and the S4, with a reliance on expandable storage and a removable battery being your only real reason to pick the S4 over the One, IMO.

JanSt / MOD  Jun. 21, 2013 at 08:19

I saw the headline - no arguments. Well, as a mod here I like that. But I'm making one anyway:

Looking for a car; will be used for schoolrun and weekly garbage run to the landfill site. Porsche or Ferrari?

Seriously, OP, you describe a usage pattern that any midrange phone can comfortably deliver.
Why are you even looking at high-end models? I'm not teasing or being funny - have we all lost our mind a bit? You don't even mention videos, photography, docs editing, social networking, file share etc... But you consider a Note with a stylus?

Just curious, really, since I reckon secretly that 80% + of phone owners have fallen into arms race mode. Totally over equipped and paying for it.
An Ascend G510 would probably do everything you describe for a quarter of the money.

Ukjeff27  Jun. 21, 2013 at 10:43

If going for the s4 i would wait a few days for the S4 Nexus.

smileyadam  Jun. 21, 2013 at 10:46

While you may not need a Ferrari - if in the position to afford one - well why not - the One is an awesome phone - mine has never crashed or skipped a beat - and aluminuminuminum aside - the speakers are worth it alone. Screen is brilliant, included software is useful both for leisure and work use. If the contract cost is not at rip off levels - I can't recommend highly enough. The only shame is the knowledge that one day that battery is going to stop working.

cowbutt  Jun. 21, 2013 at 10:46

Samsung's hardware performs well and is good value-for-money. But I'm fair from convinced that their firmware operation is anything but a necessary cost centre to them (across all their business units, not just mobile phones). Hardware specs are much of a muchness over a year or so, so firmware quality, reliability, security and updates are the key differentiator.

I've been burnt so badly by the number and severity of bugs in the stock Samsung S2 firmware that I've sworn off Samsung devices everywhere. When it comes to mobile phones, next time round I'm only going to consider devices that have updates directly from the OS vendor, which means iPhone, Windows Phone or Nexus and "Google Experience" Android devices (if the latter ever reach the UK). Yes, one could go off-piste and install Cyanogenmod, but manufacturers are getting increasingly sniffy (somewhat understandably) about honouring warranties on modded/rooted devices, and it seems hard to find third-party firmware that has everything important working consistently.

matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 21, 2013 at 12:20

I saw the headline - no arguments. Well, as a mod here I like that. But I'm making one anyway:

Looking for a car; will be used for schoolrun and weekly garbage run to the landfill site. Porsche or Ferrari?

Seriously, OP, you describe a usage pattern that any midrange phone can comfortably deliver.
Why are you even looking at high-end models? I'm not teasing or being funny - have we all lost our mind a bit? You don't even mention videos, photography, docs editing, social networking, file share etc... But you consider a Note with a stylus?

Just curious, really, since I reckon secretly that 80% + of phone owners have fallen into arms race mode. Totally over equipped and paying for it.
An Ascend G510 would probably do everything you describe for a quarter of the money.

If you were rich (which you might be, I don't know), why not drive around in a Bentley. I mean, yeah sure, a Vauxhall Corsa still gets you from A to B, but the Bentley is just a nicer, more special experience.

Stelph  Jun. 21, 2013 at 13:04

I saw the headline - no arguments. Well, as a mod here I like that. But I'm making one anyway:

Looking for a car; will be used for schoolrun and weekly garbage run to the landfill site. Porsche or Ferrari?

Seriously, OP, you describe a usage pattern that any midrange phone can comfortably deliver.
Why are you even looking at high-end models? I'm not teasing or being funny - have we all lost our mind a bit? You don't even mention videos, photography, docs editing, social networking, file share etc... But you consider a Note with a stylus?

Just curious, really, since I reckon secretly that 80% + of phone owners have fallen into arms race mode. Totally over equipped and paying for it.
An Ascend G510 would probably do everything you describe for a quarter of the money.


Although Jan has been a little brutal, I would agree I think it makes it a lot easier to recommend a phone if we know a little more what the main things you use your phone for are, or a little bit more about the buyer.

For example,

1) are you planning on using the smarphone for content consumption (web browsing, video watching etc) or would you be interested in some content creation features (create and upload videos to youtube, take notes)

2) What are the most important physical features of a phone (i.e high megapixel camera, does it have to be small?)

3) What is your budget?

Fatboyneverslim  Jun. 21, 2013 at 13:16

Brief update as currently at work.Budget £30-£40pm, I am sure we can go on forever about ALL the uses, The ones I listed are just the major ones. Camera is not important to be honest. Regularly watch video on train & wpuld be noce to double up as a reliable sat nav. I suppose habit has always lead me towards 'High-End' phones but without having on you don't find other uses :)

Fatboyneverslim  Jun. 21, 2013 at 13:18

Also... 40-50% of time is web browsing, email, social network etc.

matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 21, 2013 at 13:26

Regularly watch video on train & wpuld be noce to double up as a reliable sat nav.
The Note 2 is definitely best for both of these. For stuff that works best on a bigger display it (unsurprisingly) can't be beaten. I guess the S4 would be the next best, as it has a bigger display than the One.

PintGlassGirl  Jun. 21, 2013 at 13:48

I'd consider the S3. It'll still do everything you want and has a great screen. I got it with unlimited data and all the minutes/texts I could want for £18/month about 6 months ago. I can only assume there are even better deals about now...

Stelph  Jun. 21, 2013 at 14:08

Regularly watch video on train & wpuld be noce to double up as a reliable sat nav.
The Note 2 is definitely best for both of these. For stuff that works best on a bigger display it (unsurprisingly) can't be beaten. I guess the S4 would be the next best, as it has a bigger display than the One.


Id agree, if you're ok with the larger phone size I would say the Note range would be best as it would make it a breeze to browse videos and the larger screen would make it better for video watching

CTPAHHIK  Jun. 21, 2013 at 16:00

There is also Xperia ZL to consider.

I cannot recommend Samsung devices due to their awful software. Stock Note 2 is very unstable and I would assume that S4 is not much better. Matt probably running custom ROM on his phone, which significantly improves experience. I have stock ROM on Note 2 and stock Xperia ZL with Xperia taking preference due to better software. Only downside for Xperia is battery life as it doesn't get anywhere close to Note 2.

Fatboyneverslim  Jun. 21, 2013 at 18:35

Thanks for all the input. Think I may wait for the Htc One Phablet & Note 3 as Phablet seems the answer!

matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 21, 2013 at 20:06

Thanks for all the input. Think I may wait for the Htc One Phablet & Note 3 as Phablet seems the answer!
That's okay, it's nice to help someone who doesn't just disappear after their original post :)!

Personally, I think you're making the right decision. Phablets (however much I hate the name) are great once you get used to them, I wouldn't go back to using an average sized smartphone after 6 months with the Note 2.

The HTC One Max (that's its rumoured name, I think) may well be my next device too, I can live without the S-Pen and the design of the HTC One really is lovely.

Stelph  Jun. 21, 2013 at 22:08


Personally, I think you're making the right decision. Phablets (however much I hate the name) are great once you get used to them, I wouldn't go back to using an average sized smartphone after 6 months with the Note


So you're saying they're phab-ulous?

I'll get my coat

matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 21, 2013 at 22:11


Personally, I think you're making the right decision. Phablets (however much I hate the name) are great once you get used to them, I wouldn't go back to using an average sized smartphone after 6 months with the Note


So you're saying they're phab-ulous?

I'll get my coat

My God, you're getting like Ahmad and that's saying something :p!

AhmadCentral  Jun. 21, 2013 at 22:14


Personally, I think you're making the right decision. Phablets (however much I hate the name) are great once you get used to them, I wouldn't go back to using an average sized smartphone after 6 months with the Note


So you're saying they're phab-ulous?

I'll get my coat

My God, you're getting like Ahmad and that's saying something :p!



........

:(

matt101101 / MOD  Jun. 21, 2013 at 23:48


Personally, I think you're making the right decision. Phablets (however much I hate the name) are great once you get used to them, I wouldn't go back to using an average sized smartphone after 6 months with the Note


So you're saying they're phab-ulous?

I'll get my coat

My God, you're getting like Ahmad and that's saying something :p!



........

:(

I've witnessed your unique brand of humour before, mate ;).

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