No iPad mini 2 till 2014? iPad mini 1.5 to plug the gap?

No iPad mini 2 till 2014? iPad mini 1.5 to plug the gap?It was September last year that we met the iPhone 5, and October when the iPad mini and fourth gen iPad were introduced. Since then? Nothing; we haven’t heard a peep from Apple on the iOS hardware front in 2013.

The iDevice drought is expected to end shortly, with several candidates for imminent launch, but one thing we’re told not to expect is the iPad mini 2.

As I mentioned above, the first gen iPad mini launched back in October, and while it went on to sell many millions of units, the spec sheet left a lot to be desired. Which, let’s face it, is par for the course with Apple; it often leaves plenty of wiggle room.

The glaring downside, for my money, was the 768 x 1024 resolution, yielding a 162PPI rating on the 7.9in display.  The rival Google Nexus 7, for example, has more pixels on a smaller display, equating to 216PPI.

But fear not; the iPad mini 2 will reportedly have a Retina display with a resolution of 2048 x 1536 – same as the fourth gen iPad. That’s more like it.

That’s the story we’re hearing again over on DigiTimes, though “industry supply chain sources” reckon mass production won’t start until Q4, which will “likely bring” a 2014 release.

If that’s the case, that’ll be a killer for Apple, missing out on the ultra-lucrative “holiday season” – as our transatlantic friends like to call it.

But the story doesn’t end there. Somewhat confusingly, the sources suggest Apple might plug the gap with a “slightly updated version” of the iPad mini, one that’s thinner, lighter and with “improved specifications”.

Apple is fairly unpredictable at the moment, so I can possibly buy the Q1 2014 iPad mini 2 release date, but a “slightly updated version” just a few months before it? I’m off to eat a salt-and-salad sandwich.

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Stelph  Jul. 15, 2013 at 15:51

I think its fairly certain that apple will release a new iPad mini alongside the new iPad in October. If the retina version isnt ready at that time then sure, chances are that they will release an iPad mini 1.5 which will probably have improved internals but the same screen as is currently provided, and despite not having the retina screen itd still be a massive leap as I imagine itll get the chip thats in the current full iPad

On a side note, I know everyone creams themselves over retina screens but I still dont really see all the excitement over them, personally I couldnt immediately tell the difference between my old iPad 2 and the retina one when I was looking, and the retina enabled apps both take up significantly more memory space and I am seeing more and more reports of iPads showing siginificant slowdown when playing some of the more intensive games which seems to be due to the graphics as the iPad 2 and iPad mini versions work fine.

The non-retina screen is still pretty amazing quality people, dont be pixel zombies

barrybarryk  Jul. 15, 2013 at 17:14

This is insanity, what's the difference if it's called iPad Mini 2 or iPad Mini S/1.5, it's another iPad Mini.

Gridl0k  Jul. 15, 2013 at 18:18

iPad 3 lifespan: just over 7 months.

Also, on the Nexus 7, "smaller screen" = held closer to your face = not the impact the headline PPI figures would suggest.

JanSt / MOD  Jul. 15, 2013 at 22:30

iPad 3 lifespan: just over 7 months.

Also, on the Nexus 7, "smaller screen" = held closer to your face = not the impact the headline PPI figures would suggest.


Not sure anyone feels the need to hold an N7 significantly closer. The real point: The Mini is perfectly fine. As is the N7... Not even 2 years ago everyone was pretty much joking about the "nonsense" it is to bring HD screens to smallish mobile devices. Needless gain at the cost of battery performance and processor suckery... Now, in absence of real innovation we need super-duper HD and Double Retina displays? Pah... If you can fool your eyes and your brain, more power to you, people.

barrybarryk  Jul. 16, 2013 at 00:22

I like 7" tablets because they're the perfect size to carry around without needing a laptop/messenger bag. They're already powerful enough and the screens are already high enough res for great legibility.

The biggest problem with them is the software, both iOS and Android are balls. Acceptable for basic, one thing at a time 'apps' but touchscreens are an AWFUL input device for anything but the most basic swiping around and every manufacturer has failed miserably in making convenient keyboard & trackpad cases attractive enough to gain any sort of ground to push development in that direction.

Stelph  Jul. 16, 2013 at 10:54

I like 7" tablets because they're the perfect size to carry around without needing a laptop/messenger bag. They're already powerful enough and the screens are already high enough res for great legibility.

The biggest problem with them is the software, both iOS and Android are balls. Acceptable for basic, one thing at a time 'apps' but touchscreens are an AWFUL input device for anything but the most basic swiping around and every manufacturer has failed miserably in making convenient keyboard & trackpad cases attractive enough to gain any sort of ground to push development in that direction.


I agree to an extent, tablet software like iOS and Android are brilliant because they are not trying to do something that they are not set up to do, for example the main input for a tablet is the touchscreen, so focusing the attention on the touchscreen input rather than faffing around with mice/external keyboards etc means its a much better user experience than you get with the somewhat more convoluted Windows 8 set up

That being said, I agree it would be nice to be able to have things like an external keyboard for longer emails when sat on the sofa, I have a keyboard dock for my iPad mini which makes it look like a diddy macbook (bless) and its very useful for longer emails, but I dont (and shouldnt) expect that to mean I can use it as I would use a laptop

JanSt / MOD  Jul. 16, 2013 at 11:01

Yep, and: lets not forget that at times touch has advantages - which is why something like AutoCad screams,"connect the graphics input tablet already". Nothing is perfect for all needs and applications.
Browsing through 4,000 pics on an iPad is a lot more pleasurable than on a Windows laptop.

barrybarryk  Jul. 16, 2013 at 13:23

Nothing is perfect for all needs and applications.

But why not? We're not talking about removing the touchscreen. There's no technical reason something like an Android or iOS tablet couldn't switch to a full desktop environment when it's placed in a dock. The tablets are powerful enough to be used for actual work, it's just their standard inputs that are gimping the software support.

JanSt / MOD  Jul. 16, 2013 at 14:45

Nothing is perfect for all needs and applications.

But why not? We're not talking about removing the touchscreen. There's no technical reason something like an Android or iOS tablet couldn't switch to a full desktop environment when it's placed in a dock. The tablets are powerful enough to be used for actual work, it's just their standard inputs that are gimping the software support.


Yes, but don't you think that is on purpose?
Since camera phones have been around it's been: QWERTY or good camera.
The Nokia N91 is to this day unbeaten in terms of sound quality. It had the cr*ppiest
screen Nokia had in the warehouse.
Qwerty or great screen. Big vegetable compartment but small freezer.
ALL devices compromise. On purpose.
Every laptop I ever used works better with Linux. Why? The trackpad/mouse even... That is hardware designed for Windows...ffs. Dito: Windows runs better on a Mac... What's that all about? :D

barrybarryk  Jul. 16, 2013 at 15:09

We're not talking about radical new hardware designs though, just basic USB HID devices and proper software support. You don't really have to compromise with software support.

As it stands all mobile OSs have been hampered in the exact same way. They're determined to use the exact same UI for both a small and large screen when the UI just isn't usable on a large screen. Take the Android MiniPCs or HDMI stick 'PC's' as an example, they generally have plenty of power for running basic applications but the Android UI and total lack of multitasking support (No I don't consider Daemon support to be the same thing) mean they're practically unusable in that way and every piece of software worth a damn won't adapt dynamically to being useable with a mouse and keyboard.

Every laptop I ever used works better with Linux. Why?I certainly wouldn't agree with that. I love Linux, but I get no end of problems with laptop installs, from sleep states not working properly to hardware wireless switches just not working. In most cases it's not Linux's fault but the manufacturer that's decided to embellish on the spec, but a pain in the ass none the less

Windows runs better on a Mac... What's that all about? Because Macs stopped being Macs and turned into PC's in 2006. Any feelings of it running better are either in your head or because you're comparing stock Windows to an OEM bloat install.

JanSt / MOD  Jul. 16, 2013 at 15:15

We're not talking about radical new hardware designs though, just basic USB HID devices and proper software support. You don't really have to compromise with software support.

As it stands all mobile OSs have been hampered in the exact same way. They're determined to use the exact same UI for both a small and large screen when the UI just isn't usable on a large screen. Take the Android MiniPCs or HDMI stick 'PC's' as an example, they generally have plenty of power for running basic applications but the Android UI and total lack of multitasking support (No I don't consider Daemon support to be the same thing) mean they're practically unusable in that way and every piece of software worth a damn won't adapt dynamically to being useable with a mouse and keyboard.

Every laptop I ever used works better with Linux. Why?I certainly wouldn't agree with that. I love Linux, but I get no end of problems with laptop installs, from sleep states not working properly to hardware wireless switches just not working. In most cases it's not Linux's fault but the manufacturer that's decided to embellish on the spec, but a pain in the ass none the less

Windows runs better on a Mac... What's that all about? Because Macs stopped being Macs and turned into PC's in 2006. Any feelings of it running better are either in your head or because you're comparing stock Windows to an OEM bloat install.
No, I'm not, actually. I never use WinBloat.
But it seems you have no patience to set up Linux properly :p
Just teasing. I don't care what anybody else uses.
I still maintain: what we all perceive as flaws or lack of innovation? 95% by design.
(okay, Blackberry 10 calls for another word...)

iOS is the perfect example for 'on purpose'... And g*d only knows why Android is the mess it is (oops). But Google have a tradition of eternal BETA... Classic advertising company behaviour.

barrybarryk  Jul. 16, 2013 at 15:21

I'm a DBA, I use multiple Linux machines every single day. I've only one bare metal Windows install in my house.

Apple and every other PC manufacturer buy their parts from the same place, it doesn't run better because it's in an Apple case.

I'm not talking about lack of innovation, I'm talking about completely backwards design decisions. Who on earth decided that every Android/iOS device plugged into a large screen needs every application to run full screen at all times with no windowing support at the OS level so you couldn't even run two apps side by side if you wanted to? A muppet, that's who

Stelph  Jul. 17, 2013 at 07:36

We're not talking about radical new hardware designs though, just basic USB HID devices and proper software support. You don't really have to compromise with software support.

As it stands all mobile OSs have been hampered in the exact same way. They're determined to use the exact same UI for both a small and large screen when the UI just isn't usable on a large screen. Take the Android MiniPCs or HDMI stick 'PC's' as an example, they generally have plenty of power for running basic applications but the Android UI and total lack of multitasking support (No I don't consider Daemon support to be the same thing) mean they're practically unusable in that way and every piece of software worth a damn won't adapt dynamically to being useable with a mouse.


To be fair this has already been tried with the atrix range, a mobile phone that could be added to a lapdock, and the asus padphone. The atrix especially had a desktop environment that would fire up when docked

I agree that I love the concept, but I understand that the sales weren't anything to shout about, hence why they haven't taken off. I think the danger is if you try and add too much then tablets can turn into a convoluted mess (hello android) and it can get confusing for the layman

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