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IPhone5 benchmarks, got there before you Mobot ;)

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If these benchmarks are correct, and I haven't completely misread them;
The A6 looks like a complete disappoinment....

0.6% faster than the Tegra3 which has been out since last year? I'm actually amazed.

BTW SG3 is a whole 2.5% slower, but since the Note2 is going to be clocked higher..... How is the iPhone5 supposed to compete against it's competition for an entire year?

**Edit** the Tegra3 in question is actually the T30L which, at this point, is tablet only based. Question against the Exynos still stands though.

Most Useful Answer corgi74  Sep. 17, 2012 at 08:06

Am I the only one impressed that a 2 core 1.02ghz processor beats the S3's "4 core" 1300Mhz processor and the Nexus 7's 1400Mhz quad core? Or am I just reading this wrong?

Its that sort of stat that shows you it is not the specs that matter, it is how you use them.

S3 users will probably make jokes about how the iPhone 5 is using dual core and totally ignore the fact that it beats their quad core in the benchmarks.


Couldn't agree more. If the SG3 was running at 1.02ghz it would benchmark 1136 which is slower than an S2 and the iPhone 5 at 1.4ghz would be 2197.
It's not what you've got it's what you do with it.

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JanSt / MOD  Sep. 16, 2012 at 22:49

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613541

http://www.androidcentral.com/benchmarks-still-not-relevant-intel-seem-be-doing-well-them

BTW SG3 is a whole 2.5% slower, but since the Note2 is going to be clocked higher..... How is the iPhone5 supposed to compete against it's competition for an entire year?Edit Threadedit
By selling loads? :p Who is gonna spend a year using an iPhone 5 and an SGS3 side-by-side? Sounds like a stupid question? But that is exactly how relevant benchmarks are in real life conditions.

On paper my Nokia N9 (compared to almost any phone in its price range)should be a snail... and yet, I can run 20 plus apps - truly multitasking - and lists still scroll stutter-free.

Thanks for the benchmarks anyway - I know there are folks interested in those numbers. And in certain areas they ARE useful. For a comparison between DIFFERENT phones, running DIFFERENT OSs they mean nothing. Take 2 Windows 7 laptops, one benchier than the other. Than replace Windows with Ubuntu on one of the machines - say, the slower one. And see which machine runs better in real life performing the same tasks.

jaybear88  Sep. 16, 2012 at 22:54

Right as usual Jan, but as I've said countless times this week, we just expect Apple to bring something more to the table each year! Side by side, I'd full expect the iPhone5 to perform much faster than the SGS3 (on iOS5 anyway. Can't make any calls on iOS6 yet, starting to sound like it's bloating a bit)

jaybear88  Sep. 16, 2012 at 22:55

And let's not forget the all important p***ing contest ;)

Anyway, we just have to await the real world side by side benchmarks, but I'm just not impressed (yet).

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 16, 2012 at 22:57

And let's not forget the all important p***ing contest ;)

Anyway, we just have to await the real world side by side benchmarks, but I'm just not impressed (yet).


True, true...

by the way - can I ask where you got these benchmarks from? I was gonna link this thread to Twitter, but I dislike 'unsourced' sourcery ;) :p

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 16, 2012 at 23:03

Right as usual Jan, but as I've said countless times this week, we just expect Apple to bring something more to the table each year! Side by side, I'd full expect the iPhone5 to perform much faster than the SGS3 (on iOS5 anyway. Can't make any calls on iOS6 yet, starting to sound like it's bloating a bit)

I'm not sure what to think about the new iPhone, yet, tbh... I really need to use it first.
The 4S did surprise after aninitial "meh"... And the 5 is a much bigger change obviously.
I won't buy one, but I'll definitely try it out. I'm sorta shocked to find myself more interested in the Lumia 920 ***blush*** :p I really hope Opera don't make a browser for WP8 - then I have a reason not to buy one (Ireland - you need Opera with all the 3G sinkholes)

jaybear88  Sep. 16, 2012 at 23:18

It was MacRumours http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/16/iphone-5-benchmarks-appear-in-geekbench-showing-dual-core-1ghz-a6-cpu/ but I don't know if I would trust them anymore than a random forum post :p

I had no idea that Opera had that kind of monopoly! But I think I like the idea of the 920 as well tbh; android vs iOS has became a little stagnant and I will always have a softspot for Nokia. Personally despised WP7 but I have high hopes for 8 (no reason why).

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 16, 2012 at 23:31

It was MacRumours http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/16/iphone-5-benchmarks-appear-in-geekbench-showing-dual-core-1ghz-a6-cpu/ but I don't know if I would trust them anymore than a random forum post :p

I had no idea that Opera had that kind of monopoly! But I think I like the idea of the 920 as well tbh; android vs iOS has became a little stagnant and I will always have a softspot for Nokia. Personally despised WP7 but I have high hopes for 8 (no reason why).


I used to like WinMo despite some serious 'issues'. In fact, my better half still has a HD2 that I use now and again. Zune and the lack of mass-storage/file explorer killed WP for me, but apparently, WP8 will correct those 2 issues. Using an N9, I know what Nokia can achieve - and with Maemo/MeeGo Elop didn't even give them a proper chance.

I'm still turned off by the tiles, but hey... I'll just kill'em all. Having said that: I'm not saying I'll buy one, but if I were given the chance to play with either the iPhone 5 or a Lumia 920 for an hour, I'd pick the Lumia.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 17, 2012 at 00:16

I bet that SGS3 would hit higher numbers running stock JB...TouchWiz is nearly as bloated as Sense, nowadays.

Also, I promoted this to the front page, very interesting stuff :).

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 17, 2012 at 00:18

Also, is Geekbench affected by resolution like Quadrant and some other on-screen benchmarks?

Pondlife  Sep. 17, 2012 at 00:22

The comparison with the 4s is the only one that really shows much worth anything, 4s wasn't regarded as slow in real world, this benchmarks much better so should still cope admirably..

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 17, 2012 at 00:35

The comparison with the 4s is the only one that really shows much worth anything, 4s wasn't regarded as slow in real world, this benchmarks much better so should still cope admirably..
The 4S is comparatively slow, smooth, but slow (like all WP7 devices and iPhones).

Jim988  Sep. 17, 2012 at 01:43

Iphone cpu benchmarks have never impressed. It's the gpu that is impressive. Any benchmarks for that been released yet?

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 17, 2012 at 02:06

Iphone cpu benchmarks have never impressed. It's the gpu that is impressive. Any benchmarks for that been released yet?
They said 2x the performance of the A5, which is also what they said about the A5X, so the A6 has the same GPU power as the A5X.

Reser  Sep. 17, 2012 at 07:30

Am I the only one impressed that a 2 core 1.02ghz processor beats the S3's "4 core" 1300Mhz processor and the Nexus 7's 1400Mhz quad core? Or am I just reading this wrong?

Its that sort of stat that shows you it is not the specs that matter, it is how you use them.

S3 users will probably make jokes about how the iPhone 5 is using dual core and totally ignore the fact that it beats their quad core in the benchmarks.

corgi74  Sep. 17, 2012 at 08:06

Am I the only one impressed that a 2 core 1.02ghz processor beats the S3's "4 core" 1300Mhz processor and the Nexus 7's 1400Mhz quad core? Or am I just reading this wrong?

Its that sort of stat that shows you it is not the specs that matter, it is how you use them.

S3 users will probably make jokes about how the iPhone 5 is using dual core and totally ignore the fact that it beats their quad core in the benchmarks.


Couldn't agree more. If the SG3 was running at 1.02ghz it would benchmark 1136 which is slower than an S2 and the iPhone 5 at 1.4ghz would be 2197.
It's not what you've got it's what you do with it.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 17, 2012 at 09:03

Does anyone know what GPU the iPhone 5 is using? Same as the iPad 3 or the Mali-T604 are my best guesses, but does anyone know for sure?

Also, it's no surprise that a true Cortex A-15 chip is fast, we always knew they would be, I guess this is just a Samsung Exynos 5250 rebranded as an Apple A6 and clocked pretty low to lessen heat production and battery drain.

The LG Optimus G with its quad-core Krait chip is surely far more interesting than the A6, no? Look how fast the dual-core Snapdragon S4 is, imagine twice that power this side of Christmas (with a better GPU, too).

I think this chip shows that in the hardware department Apple are keeping up with Android phones, not leading the technological charge.

Jim988  Sep. 17, 2012 at 09:10

Iphone doesn't use A15. It apparently uses its own custom "apple core". SoCs based on a15s are still months away from production. The ipad 3 gpu is massive and wouldn't fit in the iphone 5,it would also be overkill. So I'd guess it's a smaller version in the iphone 5.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 17, 2012 at 09:27

Iphone doesn't use A15. It apparently uses its own custom "apple core". SoCs based on a15s are still months away from production. The ipad 3 gpu is massive and wouldn't fit in the iphone 5,it would also be overkill. So I'd guess it's a smaller version in the iphone 5.
It appears you're correct, I was misinformed by early information. So it's a PowerVR GPU not a Mali, then?

Jim988  Sep. 17, 2012 at 09:31

The custom core seems near enough confirmed, and does make sense if you think about it.

I would guess at that, apple hasn't deviated from PowerVR GPU's before, so id say its a safe bet that they are using a Power VR GPU again. Question is, which one. The ipad 3 GPU is overkill, the reason they put such a powerful GPU was to handle the ipad 3's ridiculos display. The Iphone 5 doesn't have a very high res display so wouldn't need that GPU. Like i said before, i would assume they have put some kind of smaller version of the Ipad's GPU in there.

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 17, 2012 at 09:31

What is Geekbench and how credible is it? I don't see GSM Arena using it for their tests. I'm assuming usual suite of Android benchmarks are not available for iOS?
This is "Apples" to "Ice Cream" comparison - pretty useless.

corgi74  Sep. 17, 2012 at 10:15

What is Geekbench and how credible is it? I don't see GSM Arena using it for their tests. I'm assuming usual suite of Android benchmarks are not available for iOS?
This is "Apples" to "Ice Cream" comparison - pretty useless.


If every phone is benchmarked using the same benchmarking software regardless of what it is it's a valid comparison.
If you are comparing Geekbench against Quadrant or another benchmark then it's useless.
And GSM Arena do use it
http://blog.gsmarena.com/chipset-head-to-head-the-new-ipad-battles-the-transformer-prime/

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 17, 2012 at 10:34

What is Geekbench and how credible is it? I don't see GSM Arena using it for their tests. I'm assuming usual suite of Android benchmarks are not available for iOS?
This is "Apples" to "Ice Cream" comparison - pretty useless.


If every phone is benchmarked using the same benchmarking software regardless of what it is it's a valid comparison.
If you are comparing Geekbench against Quadrant or another benchmark then it's useless.


I'm sure Nvidia, AMD and Intel would disagree. Every benchmark favors one or the other. I don't know much about Geekbench and don't know who uses it, so I consider it's results questionable.

corgi74  Sep. 17, 2012 at 10:41



I'm sure Nvidia, AMD and Intel would disagree. Every benchmark favors one or the other. I don't know much about Geekbench and don't know who uses it, so I consider it's results questionable.


But they're all running ARM based SoC though so it's as level a playing field as you can get.
The Geekbench results also show that a Nexus 7 has a score of 1604 and an iPad 3 has a score of 769. I'm assuming you would consider that score to be accurate

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 17, 2012 at 11:15



I'm sure Nvidia, AMD and Intel would disagree. Every benchmark favors one or the other. I don't know much about Geekbench and don't know who uses it, so I consider it's results questionable.


But they're all running ARM based SoC though so it's as level a playing field as you can get.
The Geekbench results also show that a Nexus 7 has a score of 1604 and an iPad 3 has a score of 769. I'm assuming you would consider that score to be accurate

Yet that's totally unrepresentative of performance, the Nexus 7 is nowhere near twice as fast as the iPad 3. If anything, the iPad is the better, faster and more fluid user experience (which you'd expect for, at the least, twice the price of the N7).

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 17, 2012 at 11:52

Am I the only one impressed that a 2 core 1.02ghz processor beats the S3's "4 core" 1300Mhz processor and the Nexus 7's 1400Mhz quad core? Or am I just reading this wrong?

Its that sort of stat that shows you it is not the specs that matter, it is how you use them.

S3 users will probably make jokes about how the iPhone 5 is using dual core and totally ignore the fact that it beats their quad core in the benchmarks.


Couldn't agree more. If the SG3 was running at 1.02ghz it would benchmark 1136 which is slower than an S2 and the iPhone 5 at 1.4ghz would be 2197.
It's not what you've got it's what you do with it.


Nope, not you alone. Seems like there is four more people. Wanna bet that Ivy Bridge single core running @ 1GHz will decimate A6 chip? Seems impressive until you remember that Ivy Bridge would need about 20W of power to do that. You have to look at A6 SoC as a platform factoring in power consumption as well. Cortex A5 is slower than A9 @ same clock speed and I would expect it to have lower power consumption. Clock speed does not mean much anymore.
What is needed are more real world benchmarks for comparison. One synthetic suite is not representative. One can optimize phone to excel in specific benchmark as expense of others. I doubt that Apple bothered to to do and A6 is really good, but how good? It twice as fast as 4S in this particular benchmark - that's pretty much all it means.

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