JanSt

Not joining Facebook a sign you're a psychopath?

Remember a while back we had the discussion about US employers demanding access to your social network accounts?
Right...
When I first heard about that, I was kinda smirking. I had always believed...well, by 'always' I mean since the beginning of social networks on the web... well, I always thought that ONE DAY not having an online footprint would get you into trouble.
Cause that is how Big Brother works.

Now the first embedded psychologists and Human "Resource" 'experts' chime in:

Yes, not having a Facebook could mean you are a psycho!
'If you’re of a certain age and you meet someone who you are about to go to bed with, and that person doesn’t have a Facebook page, you may be getting a false name. It could be some kind of red flag,'


Wait, so before you commit to a potential date rape, you do a FB search?

It points out that Holmes, who is accused of killing 12 people and an unborn child and wounding 58 others at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, and Breivik, who murdered 77 people with a car bomb and mass shooting, did not use Facebook and had small online footprints


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184658/Is-joining-Facebook-sign-youre-psychopath-Some-employers-psychologists-say-suspicious.html?ITO=1490

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JanSt / MOD  Aug. 7, 2012 at 12:02

That is a good book by the way ;)

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 7, 2012 at 12:36

I read this yesterday, it was on my Android News and Weather app...don't worry, I don't usually read the Daily Mail :p.

My thoughts on the matter can be summed up as "what a load of sh*t". Thankfully, the article does mention that already productive adults are excluded from being "suspicious" as they grew up without FB and other social networking sites.

On the other hand, if my daughter told me she'd deleted her FB account, I wouldn't book her in to see a shrink (hell, I wouldn't even care), in the same way she wouldn't worry or care if I told her I'd deleted one of my Email accounts.

Jan, I have to say, I think you were right on this one. Rather than FB being an optional, slightly pointless website that some people sign up to, it's now become a standard of western living and anyone who doesn't conform to that standard is a misfit, a freak...or in the words of the Daily Mail a "psychopath".

I do question their use of the word "psychopath", though.

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 7, 2012 at 13:01

Yes, psychopath and sociopath are usually misused terms - just like schizophren etc... When science meets pop...

But it is actually not funny.
I said a few years ago not having an online 'footprint' would one day be seen like not having fingerprints.

Of course, this also sounds like Zuck himself could have financed it. Loadsa folks will now set up cute accounts to appear less psycho ;)

Pondlife  Aug. 7, 2012 at 13:10

Well none of the most famous serial killers in history had facebook, nor any of the 20th centuries murderous dictators maybe they are on to something lol. :p

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 7, 2012 at 13:33

Yes, psychopath and sociopath are usually misused terms - just like schizophren etc... When science meets pop...

But it is actually not funny.
I said a few years ago not having an online 'footprint' would one day be seen like not having fingerprints.

Of course, this also sounds like Zuck himself could have financed it. Loadsa folks will now set up cute accounts to appear less psycho ;)

What that article failed to mention is that a tiny percentage of criminal are psychopaths and a tiny percentage of psychopaths are criminals (when using the term "psychopath", correctly).

Maybe I'm a half-psycho...I have FB, but it's locked down so prying eyes can't see anything even half useful...

Certinfy  Aug. 7, 2012 at 16:52

I think i'm a physcopath then. :(

Pondlife  Aug. 7, 2012 at 17:39

I think this place seems to be packed with them.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 7, 2012 at 20:09

I think this place seems to be packed with them.
Watch out, Pondi...we're coming for you :p.

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 7, 2012 at 21:57

matt,
Dr Hare would actually disagree with you about just how rare "psychos" are.

Here's a quiz based on his research into "next door neighbour" psychopaths / corporate psychopathy:
Is Your Boss A Psychopath

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 7, 2012 at 22:03

matt,
Dr Hare would actually disagree with you about just how rare "psychos" are.

Here's a quiz based on his research into "next door neighbour" psychopaths / corporate psychopathy:
Is Your Boss A Psychopath

I'm calling bullsh*t on the quiz, on the basis that even one "maybe" answer qualifies you to "be frustrated" with your boss.

Anyone can write a BS quiz, look I'll give it a go right now:

1) Have you ever told a lie?
2) Have you ever hurt someone else's feelings?
3) Have you ever been easily bored?

Answer "Yes" to any of the above, and you're going to kill many, many people. You're evil.



See how easy it is?

krogothnx  Aug. 8, 2012 at 08:44

well then there's an awful lot of psychopaths out there then...

current world population: 6,973,738,433
active monthly users for june 2012 on facebook: 955,000,000

hooray, over 6 billion psychopaths!

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 8, 2012 at 09:25

matt,
Dr Hare would actually disagree with you about just how rare "psychos" are.

Here's a quiz based on his research into "next door neighbour" psychopaths / corporate psychopathy:
Is Your Boss A Psychopath

I'm calling bullsh*t on the quiz, on the basis that even one "maybe" answer qualifies you to "be frustrated" with your boss.

Anyone can write a BS quiz, look I'll give it a go right now:

1) Have you ever told a lie?
2) Have you ever hurt someone else's feelings?
3) Have you ever been easily bored?

Answer "Yes" to any of the above, and you're going to kill many, many people. You're evil.



See how easy it is?


Matt, that is where you are wrong. Along with a lot of other other people.
I'm not saying the test is comprehensive or scientific. It's really more of a provocative act.
But the flipside is this:
We have been conditioned to accept all sorts of outrageous anti-social behaviour when it's dished out from a position of power, status and/or assumed authority.
Watch Ramsay in Hells Kitchen. His behaviour would lead a small business owner straight to labour courtand from there to jail or at least counselling. But it's TV and he cooks fancy overpriced food. So hey, why shouldn't he bent laws and all rules of common decency? It's charisma, "leadership"...

A recent tribunal in Ireland found essentially the entire Ahern government "corrupt and criminal"! Not a single prosecution.
Those guys allowed Ireland to be robbed blind. A multi-million tribunal proved it. Not a single prosecution.
And some of those "leaders" tour the world as "speakers for hire".
They are psychopaths. They knew the rules, broke them...in the belief the rules apply to single mothers on welfare, but not to
prime ministers and their stooges. And they are getting away with it.
What the test is doing is to boldly counter the "don't judge a book by its cover" nonsense. As a species we evolved capable of recognising signs of danger. Traits of evil. We know when someone is too good to be true. We can smell evil. But it's been legalised out of us.
It's no longer sociably acceptable. On the surface, it seems to make sense: we cannot judge the poor or ugly or foreigners based on their appearance, etc etc...
all good, all PC, right.
But ask yourself: since when does government, since when does the really really elite elite give ONE t*ss about PC? They invade countries based on blatant lies. They pollute 'our' children's earth for lies and profits.
And when the peasantry gets too uppity and goes out in outrage to protest, they deserve
batons, tear gas (how quaint. Like a term from Hogwarts. Tear gas... IT CAN KILL)...
When you owe £1000 you can go to jail (majority of UK/US prison population: people who failed to pay fines/bill etc); owe a billion and you get a golden handshake.

Blair called upon the British people to send their kids to Bush's war because, quote, it was time "for a blood sacrifice"! At around that time, Mrs Blair was in tears because she was buying her 2 sons flats under dubious circumstances. Sons that Tones didn't wanna blood-sacrifice. Whoa...that's for simple folks...

Waco: 40+ children burned alive by the FBI (video evidence abounds). It happened under Clinton, so "Democrats" smirked. Under Bush it would have been an outrage.
1 man in that "compound" (a community centre - however wacky we may find 7 Days Adventists) had no license for one pistol. That man was regularily in town where the sheriff
could have easily arrested him. FACT! But the Ruby Ridge "siege" in '92 had been a huge embarrassment for the FBI and Clinton, and he and Janet Reno were working on new terror legislation and needed a showcase. Bang. 40+ people fried... And Democrats smirked.

Madeleine Albright? "500,000' starved Iragi kids to preserve Iraq's oil for US bidders "a price worth paying"!
Matt: that is psychopath talk! But we have been conditioned to accept it.

If you wash your car in Europe on your own driveway, in many countries you can go to jail for
pollution. When multi-nationals pollute your land, YOU can be sued!
When they pollute your water, you have to suck it up. Or wait for Erin Brokovich until the cows come home. ORGANISED psychopathy.

In Jon Ronson's "Psychopath Test" world renowned psychiatrists and neurologists
lay it all out: we breed for psychopathy! Our social system, our media-induced value systems are such that psycho/sociopaths thrive.

So yes, that test is a bit flippant. But if it means one of 100,000 visitors to that site takes a closer look at their psycho boss, then it's a good test. Because, boy, something IS wrong with untalented, unskilled people who feel entitled to be "boss"! Who feel it's their call to
be "boss" with the power to ruin your day or your life.

CTPAHHIK  Aug. 8, 2012 at 13:02

Jan take it easy - you getting me worried.

Pondlife  Aug. 8, 2012 at 13:30

You picturing a vein pulsing in his forehead?
Back on the facebook line of thought, a quick google of facebook killer belies the idea, some disturbing people come to the fore. Not least Ramazan Acar.

JanSt / MOD  Aug. 8, 2012 at 14:37

Jan take it easy - you getting me worried.
I'm pretty chilled.

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