Now that the LG G2 launch is behind us, the main interest in LG's new flagship surrounds when it'll be available and what it'll cost.
We're still no closer than the eight-weeks ballpark figure on the former, but price-wise the G2 has just popped up for pre-order over in Germany for €599 (£516) SIM-free.
Sadly there's no claimed in-stock date, though even if there were it wouldn't necessarily apply here. For now we'll stick with LG's claim that it'll have the G2 available in 130 markets within the next eight weeks.
And as for the price? It's just about what we'd expect, to be honest. This is a major arrival on the smartphone market, and would be getting far more prominent coverage if it wasn't for the general indifference a lot of people have towards LG in general (and the coverage it's had via leaks ahead of time, to be fair).
The point is, this is a major player in the Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One class, so no surprise to see it priced as such.