Motorola, Nokia and RIM up in arms over Apple nano-SIM proposal

Motorola, Nokia and RIM up in arms over Apple nano-SIM proposalCast your mind back to November, and you might recall that Giesecke & Devrient announced it was working on a nano-SIM – a cheeky little chap that’s two-thirds the size of a micro-SIM.

Apple, one of the few manufacturers to use micro-SIMs, is – unsurprisingly – all for nano-SIM action, however its proposal to the European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI) has upset rival manufacturers.

The Financial Times cites “one person with knowledge of the committee” who explains that the Apple-led proposal would require a “drawer” to protect the nano-SIM. “Phones would need to be re-engineered with this in mind,” adds the source.

Under the proposal, all handset makers would be permitted to use the design under license, however there are concerns that Apple might ultimately own the related patents. Cue: protestation from Motorola, Nokia and RIM.

The proposal is thought to have the backing of most of Europe’s providers. However, just to be on the safe side, Apple is looking to register six subsidies, each wielding 45 ETSI votes each. Audacious!

Last year, Giesecke & Devrient explained: “Compared to the SIM cards most widely used today, the nano-SIM is almost 60 percent smaller. It offers device manufacturers the crucial advantage of freeing up extra space for other mobile phone components, such as additional memory or larger batteries.

“And because nano-SIM cards are significantly smaller and thinner, they will also make it easier to create thinner devices.”

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jmarcelino  Mar. 21, 2012 at 16:11

I like the idea but not sure about this, can we cut existing SIMs to nano SIM size?
It seems so from the diagram.

Pondlife  Mar. 21, 2012 at 16:31

Cue: protestation from Motorola, RIM and RIM. ;)

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 21, 2012 at 16:40

Cue: protestation from Motorola, RIM and RIM. ;)
Lewis strikes again ;).

Pondlife  Mar. 21, 2012 at 17:15

“And because nano-SIM cards are significantly smaller and thinner, they will also make it easier to create thinner devices.”

Struggling to see the sim as being factor in restricting the slimming down of phones tbh.

What is actually on a sim card anyway?

lcurdie / MOD  Mar. 21, 2012 at 17:49

Cue: protestation from Motorola, RIM and RIM. ;)
Lewis strikes again ;).


Haha! Amazing. I almost don't want to change that, but I suspect Emma would beat me.

hicks12  Mar. 21, 2012 at 18:03

Baffling, "Thinner" devices is such a useless comment, sorry but thinner would mean that the sim card is actually thinner but to me it doesnt looking thinner it looks shorter, this really means no benefit is to be had as the screen sizes are 99% dictating the device length, the only other factors are really camera/microphone/speakers/buttons but the simcard is really just a major design fail.

Even worse is that it apparently requires a full sized sim tray, basically ignoring any "benefit" and adding extra cost! Why not simply design a system similar to microsd/sd slots if you really have to use one of these smaller cards?.

Pondlife  Mar. 21, 2012 at 18:11

Where are people seeing this nano sim, just looks like micro is pictured above with adaptor.

Treab  Mar. 21, 2012 at 18:13

Cue: protestation from Motorola, RIM and RIM. ;)
Lewis strikes again ;).


Haha! Amazing. I almost don't want to change that, but I suspect Emma would beat me.


and after the last beating for the rip her clothes debacle...

jmarcelino  Mar. 21, 2012 at 19:42

Where are people seeing this nano sim, just looks like micro is pictured above with adaptor.

From the link on the original nano SIM article: http://www.gi-de.com/gd_media/media/documents/brochures/mobile_security_2/cste_1/GD_NanoSIM.pdf

It's essentially a MicroSIM without the surrounding plastic.

I don't get the battle. If other manufacturers don't see the need for nano SIM just don't use it, like they haven't used the MicroSIM.

No one is making them change.

Pondlife  Mar. 21, 2012 at 22:16

If it is that one, doesn't seem any reason it should be slimmer.
Now that M2M SIM MFF2 is the way to go, let's jump to that for 4G :)

jmarcelino  Mar. 22, 2012 at 00:20

Hahah a M2M SIM MFF2 would be would be amazing, great name too.

I understand it's a controversial topic but I'd rather they did without the cards altogether. Use a activation passcode or whatever, but in this age of NFC, Cloud and OTA stuff it doesn't make much sense to be shipping around tiny bits of circuit board to activate our phones.

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 22, 2012 at 00:29

I want to be able to swap phones instantly, without having to ask my network's permission. Hell, I have different phones for different purposes, which I switch backwards and forwards to and from.

jmarcelino  Mar. 22, 2012 at 00:41

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