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Motorola Razr! Are you getting one?

The Motorola Razr seems to be the best phone on the market after today. I'd say its just as good as the S2 if not slightly better. It's due to get ICS Q1 2012. It will be £454 sim free on launch on Nov 1st.

No news about carriers in the UK though yet.
Anyone planning on getting it or does everyone still hate Motorola for never updating any of their phones?

Most Useful Answer matt101101  Oct. 19, 2011 at 23:10

Wow, a Motorola fanboy, that's a rarity in today's tech. world haha :p. I'm just a wh*re for the best device ;).

It's only SAMOLED though, not SAMOLED+, like the SGS2....and until I see it crack 5500 on quadrant (which is what I got out of my OC'd S2 running CM 7.1), I won't believe it's more powerful :p.

Updates are going to be an issue, at least until Google actually has control of Moto....

Treab, you don't NEED it mate ;)

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matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 18:32

It's undoubtedly a fantastic phone, but Motorola's update history and the fact I already have an S2 (which will undoubtedly get ICS, being Samsung's flagship Galaxy device), means I'll be seeing what turns up at MWC 2012. Though that's just my personal situation, no doubt at all the SGS2 and RAZR are on par with each other as the best smartphones on the planet.

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 19:41

I recon i may have to get the RAZR myself... depends on contract terms... but KEVLAR its soo shexy

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 19:57

Kevlar = Pretty....in a geeky robotic kinda way...I'd bite your hand off for a RAZR if I didn't have an SGS2. Treab, what happened to wanting a Galaxy Note?

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:07

it turned female/i do still wonder about the size...

im currently divided between

sensation xe
samsung galaxy s2
samsung galaxy note
motorola RAZR

im keeping my options open :p

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:13

Well I can fully recommend the S2, as you can probably guess :p. It's easy to hack as well, due to the unlocked bootloader. The RAZR is going to have a locked bootloader, confirmed by Motorola, which means root might take ages to achieve. The Sensation XE looks amazing, I've only ever used an original Sensation but adding 300mhz of processing power and making it look sexier...it's without a doubt a brilliant phone...As for the Note, powerful yes, Exynos @ 1.4ghz, but you can push an SGS2 safely to 1.6ghz with a far more sensible sized screen. Also, like you said, it's turned, "female oriented".

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:14

Anyway, what about the Galaxy Prime? Stock ICS looks truly beautiful and you'd be first for upgrades in the future...

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:17

well the galaxy nexus (is coming to three which is good) but seems to be a downgraded samsung galaxy s2... its that camera i just cant forgive it... it worries me at 5mp...

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:32

It can still record at 1080p (which is a first for a 5mp camera on a phone, I believe). Megapixels don't mean anything apart from how big you can blow a photo up before it becomes fuzzy. Sensor quality means far more, which we won't really know about until people start reviewing the phone in real environments.

It's got trade offs with the SGS2, if you take all the points where the SGS2 is better and all the points where the SGN is better, they come out with around the same number of wins...

SGS2 Wins:
Cameras (front 2mp and back 8mp)
GPU
Processor (probably)
Thinness
Weight

SGN Wins:
Screen size
Screen resolution (720p!!!)
Android 4.0 ICS
Looks (IMO)
NFC
Premium feel

Draws:
RAM
Memory
Micro SD Support (AFAIK though I may be wrong, if not win to the S2)
Unlocked bootloaders (rooting purposes)

That's all I can think of now, though I'm sure I've missed stuff from all three sections haha.

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:33

has it got NFC then?

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:35

AFAIK yeah...does some weird transfer sh*t that I think it uses NFC for...I may be wrong...

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:37

I was right:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/19/samsung-nexus-prime-ice-cream-sandwich

Just "ctrl+f", the page and search "NFC", so you don't have to read the whole article.

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:40

i wonder if it can be used for NFC payments...

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:54

I'd guess so, though not in the UK very much as NFC isn't exactly widely used yet...

No LTE, no NFC, no Gbps broadband....for a wealthy nation, the UK is massively outdated when it comes to tech :(.

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 20:55

just for fun...

heres the ICS new unlock system (facial recognition unlock) failing miserably...

Google ICS fail.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:02

LOL....yeah I said it, LOL (I feel slightly disgusting now...).

To be fair, stuff like that always goes wrong at these events, Apple events rarely ever seem to pass without incident, tbh.

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:05

tbh that does worry me... im sure if it works its going to be an epic design decision (£5 says apple will claim they have a patent on it and sues) but if it has even 1 issue it could be a commercial disaster..

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:10

Well, Nexus phones tend to be developer platforms more than anything, they don't sell that well to the general public. I don't think that many people would use it everyday anyway, to much effort staying still enough for long enough for it to recognise your face. I guess it's only as much of a gimmick as Siri though, in fairness.

I doubt Apple have a patent on it, I also doubt Apple would go directly against Google in court...picking on Samsung is one thing, picking on Google, is another, very very different matter.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:16

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:20

i have seen stuff about that posted before... i cant say im shocked to hear they have considered patents in their decisions. i would do to.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:26

Same, as Judges for some reason seem unable to say "No", to Apple, who insist on acting like a spoilt child.

Though with Google so close to the project I doubt Apple would be too keen to sue anyone...note how Appla have NEVER picked directly on Google, despite the OS belonging to them...

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:32

i know. google has a history of proving the uniqueness of their software/they are also ruthless in defending themselves lol.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:45

Google are a "nice", faceless corporation. They're willing to be reasonable and friendly 99.9% of the time but if anyone fu*ks with Google, god help them. That's how a company should be run, ruthless when someone's threatening your welfare (genuinely), but friendly and open 99.9% of the time and willing to share and genuinely make the best products possible, not just the fattest cheque possible....Apple...

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 21:49

look at googles latest venture working with new businesses in london...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/sep/28/google-london-startup-centre

i bet we will never see that from apple..

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 19, 2011 at 22:11

Obviously it's primarily for Google's benefit, they bankroll but then get a share of the profits, but it shows thought for the little guy. We've also seen Google's way work, sales figures for Android phones destroy sales figures for iOS phones nowadays, proving you can be successful and kind. Apple are to arrogant for their own good. They'll one day become the BlackBerry of the world, even the most avid fanboy can only take so many mediocre updates...

Treab  Oct. 19, 2011 at 22:48

i agree it does provide an income for google but it goes along the idea of venture capital... which is a very successful method in not just a capitalist country such as the uk.

but has shown its effectiveness in areas such as africa where a small loan to a small family company to produce then sell onto their neighbours helps to create wealth for the whole of the local area..

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