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With the Nexus 4 being so cheap, will other phone prices start to come down?

If Google Play keeps selling Nexus devices at super-reasonable prices, is there a chance manufacturers might be forced to follow suit? Would be lovely to see the Samsung Galaxy S IV launch at circa £300 ;)

Most Useful Answer matt101101  Feb. 20, 2013 at 13:44

Cut corners or made to a price point?
Either way it's a hell of a phone for a very good price. Sure there's better out there if thats what you want but I bet the N4 will last me a couple of years :)

One and the same, IMO.

Oh, I'm not saying the N4 is a bad device, far from it, for the money it's the best phone you can buy (and you really can buy it nowadays, apparently). My real point is that people expecting to see the S4 on sale SIM free for £300 are deluded, Samsung (and everyone else) make their money from hardware, only big-G can rely on the Play Store to make up for selling cost price devices.

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matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 19, 2013 at 22:35

No.

AhmadCentral  Feb. 19, 2013 at 22:37

hahahahahahahaha!

awww, such a cute question!

Pondlife  Feb. 20, 2013 at 01:50

I think it has had an impact to a degree.

Stelph  Feb. 20, 2013 at 11:13

I think it has had an impact to a degree.

I agree, I doubt we will see android phones come down to £239 like the Nexus 4 at launch but I think we will see (and have started to see) Android phone prices come down, like the iPhone they were threatening to go the wrong side of £500 at one point, however now the HTC One for example has just been announced and is £459

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 20, 2013 at 11:24

I think it has had an impact to a degree.

I agree, I doubt we will see android phones come down to £239 like the Nexus 4 at launch but I think we will see (and have started to see) Android phone prices come down, like the iPhone they were threatening to go the wrong side of £500 at one point, however now the HTC One for example has just been announced and is £459

Yeah, remember HTC aren't a big name in Android any more, they're not even in the top 10 Android device manufacturers, they have to give people some reason to buy the HTC One rather than just wait for the S4:
http://androidheadlines.com/2013/02/seismic-shifts-in-the-handset-market-as-htc-falls-out-of-top-10.html

The top of the range Samsung devices still do push £500 on release, admittedly we've not had a new one this side of the N4, but I bet the S4 and Note 3 are both ~£500 (possibly closer to £550 for the N3) SIM free when they are released.

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 20, 2013 at 11:35

I think it has had an impact to a degree.
Has it, really? We haven't had any big Android launches since November, have we? The Note 2 was the last one (bar the N4 itself) and that was already out. I'd put money on the S4 and N3 both being the same price as the S3 and N2 were last year. The N4 may be cheap, but it's pretty clear they were cutting corners during production...

mrew42  Feb. 20, 2013 at 12:34

Cut corners or made to a price point?
Either way it's a hell of a phone for a very good price. Sure there's better out there if thats what you want but I bet the N4 will last me a couple of years :)

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 20, 2013 at 13:44

Cut corners or made to a price point?
Either way it's a hell of a phone for a very good price. Sure there's better out there if thats what you want but I bet the N4 will last me a couple of years :)

One and the same, IMO.

Oh, I'm not saying the N4 is a bad device, far from it, for the money it's the best phone you can buy (and you really can buy it nowadays, apparently). My real point is that people expecting to see the S4 on sale SIM free for £300 are deluded, Samsung (and everyone else) make their money from hardware, only big-G can rely on the Play Store to make up for selling cost price devices.

Pondlife  Feb. 20, 2013 at 14:19

S3 seems to have dropped in price more readily than the s2 did though.
Yeah not expecting s4 at £300 but think it might be lower than Samsung originally intended.

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 20, 2013 at 14:30

S3 seems to have dropped in price more readily than the s2 did though.
Yeah not expecting s4 at £300 but think it might be lower than Samsung originally intended.

For their respective times, the S2 was a far batter phone than the S3. It basically had no viable competition, I mean, really, the HTC Sensation :p.

It'll be expensive, more than the HTC One and less than the iPhone 5...~£500, like I said earlier. Then again, SIM free prices are irrelevant, most people buy phones like the S4 on 24 month contracts anyway.

Pondlife  Feb. 20, 2013 at 14:34

Whereas the s3 had such stiff competition?

Dare say the rrp could be that but I think we'll see it for current One prices at launch, imagine the damage they could do if they did pitch it slightly lower though.
True but sim free prices are easier to compare than contracts and can infer the sorts of deals you'd be able to get

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 20, 2013 at 14:42

Whereas the s3 had such stiff competition?

Dare say the rrp could be that but I think we'll see it for current One prices at launch, imagine the damage they could do if they did pitch it slightly lower though.
True but sim free prices are easier to compare than contracts and can infer the sorts of deals you'd be able to get

If Samsung sold the S4 for, say, £400/£26 per month from release day, they'd absolutely destroy the competition. On the basis the S3 gave the iPhone a run for its money at full price, a slightly cheaper S4 would blow it away.

Well the S3's had the Nexus 4 and the Note 2, which has sold better than the original Note, to contend with. Also, the S2 was ahead of its time, it could out perform a One X, remember, whereas the S3 was just exactly what was expected. Nothing more, nothing less.

Stelph  Feb. 21, 2013 at 09:51

Whereas the s3 had such stiff competition?

Dare say the rrp could be that but I think we'll see it for current One prices at launch, imagine the damage they could do if they did pitch it slightly lower though.
True but sim free prices are easier to compare than contracts and can infer the sorts of deals you'd be able to get

If Samsung sold the S4 for, say, £400/£26 per month from release day, they'd absolutely destroy the competition. On the basis the S3 gave the iPhone a run for its money at full price, a slightly cheaper S4 would blow it away.

Well the S3's had the Nexus 4 and the Note 2, which has sold better than the original Note, to contend with. Also, the S2 was ahead of its time, it could out perform a One X, remember, whereas the S3 was just exactly what was expected. Nothing more, nothing less.


I agree, imagine the S4 at £399.99, HUKD would cream its collective trousers and when it was in shops compared to the HTC and iPhone (and Nexus 4's highstreet price) I think it would scream away in the sales

Pondlife  Feb. 21, 2013 at 11:47

I think it would be a disaster on the whole for the consumer if they did follow that through though fortunately I don't think they will.

Mattymoo756  Mar. 1, 2013 at 00:07

The main thing people are missing here is that Google are selling it's nexus devices at break-even or low profit prices, as it is trying to make up the money through the play store which it owns of course. Big companies like Samsung and HTC etc won't sell their devices at no profit as they don't have the play store for example, to make up the money from except accessories, which lets be honest, no one ever buys as they are over priced. Would be nice though.

Pondlife  Mar. 1, 2013 at 13:09

As Matt mentioned it above even if any of us were dumb enough bit to think that the firms didn't have to make a profit we had already had if pointed out.
Suspect enough people are buying the overpriced accessories or they'd not bother selling them.

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