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Has anyone used the Nokia Lumia 800?

Has anyone (Jan?) tried out the Nokia Lumia 800? Thoughts?

Most Useful Answer MDrX  Jan. 30, 2012 at 09:49

I like it. I've been pretty impressed by how quick it is. The time from standby to taking a photo is amazing.

I love the design of the thing, too. Makes a nice change from the amount of identikit screens out there (HTC, LG, Samsung..)

The OS.. well you either love it or hate it, don't you. Mobile IE isn't the end of the world, in fact it is perfectly fine. No Flash is a good thing for me. Lack of storage expansion.. I don't care; others do, that's understandable. I hated the design of the OS itself on first sight but it has really grown on me.
I've never seen the phone crash which is pretty handy.

You do get Office and OneNote which is my saviour. The panels on the home screen are genuinely useful. Someone actually thought about it. Selecting a contact and seeing their data from SMS, phone and linked accounts such as Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin etc is a great idea if you're into social guff.

iOS, Android, Meego, and Bada generally look the same and do the same thing in a similar way. It isn't a bad way of doing things and if you got an Android phone you'll use it quite happily. But if you buy into Windows Phone then there will be quirks (like finding out how to go back in the web browser) and the battery issues of the 800 (you should get 20ish hours of normal-heavy use) but I think there is a lot to like as long as you're willing to put up with the slightly non-standard way of getting things done (if it is even possible on Windows) and a scarcity of apps.

The thing about Windows Phone is it will improve and the Lumia will get updates in a timely manner.
Will Android? If so, when?
Will iOS ever change? Which new feature will you be missing on your 12 month old device for no good reason?

It's a shame the 800 didn't have the specs of the N9 but it looks like the 910 will sort that out.

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blizzard7  Jan. 29, 2012 at 19:01

Jan probably has while frothing at the mouth with rage :p, but I'll try and give you a more balanced view.

It has its strengths, namely speedy interface, very comfortable "pillowed" case which seems up to resisting the knocks and bumps of life, a good (but not great) camera, lots of great Xbox Arcade type games and Zune player, which I personally think is as good as iPod + iTunes.

But then you will have to compromise on customization, a Flash-less browser, limited (and more expensive) app selection, a pretty low-end display resolution by today's standards, no storage expansion (you're stuck at 14 GBs usable) and the potential for some battery problems.

If you want a Windows Phone 7, Nokia is the way to go, no-one could really argue otherwise. But if you're still deciding and this is going to be your main phone for a while, I'd suggest looking over to Android or iOS.

Still it might be worth waiting for the Mobile World Congress in February. Nokia might announce the Lumia 910 which might be a tad better and the Lumia 800 might come down in price as a result. Also new Androids-a-plenty will be there.

JanSt / MOD  Jan. 29, 2012 at 19:19

The Lumia 910 is already advertised by at least one (Dutch) retailer =>>
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Nokia-Lumia-910-Listed-by-Dutch-Retailer-2.jpg/

To be honest - if WP would accommodate swappable SD cards, mass storage mode and a decent 3rd party browser a la Opera or Dolphin, I might overcome my hatred for Microsoft in the same way I did for HTC's HD2 or Palms Treo 750 and Pro...
The Lumia's hardware seems quite nice.

MDrX  Jan. 30, 2012 at 09:49

I like it. I've been pretty impressed by how quick it is. The time from standby to taking a photo is amazing.

I love the design of the thing, too. Makes a nice change from the amount of identikit screens out there (HTC, LG, Samsung..)

The OS.. well you either love it or hate it, don't you. Mobile IE isn't the end of the world, in fact it is perfectly fine. No Flash is a good thing for me. Lack of storage expansion.. I don't care; others do, that's understandable. I hated the design of the OS itself on first sight but it has really grown on me.
I've never seen the phone crash which is pretty handy.

You do get Office and OneNote which is my saviour. The panels on the home screen are genuinely useful. Someone actually thought about it. Selecting a contact and seeing their data from SMS, phone and linked accounts such as Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin etc is a great idea if you're into social guff.

iOS, Android, Meego, and Bada generally look the same and do the same thing in a similar way. It isn't a bad way of doing things and if you got an Android phone you'll use it quite happily. But if you buy into Windows Phone then there will be quirks (like finding out how to go back in the web browser) and the battery issues of the 800 (you should get 20ish hours of normal-heavy use) but I think there is a lot to like as long as you're willing to put up with the slightly non-standard way of getting things done (if it is even possible on Windows) and a scarcity of apps.

The thing about Windows Phone is it will improve and the Lumia will get updates in a timely manner.
Will Android? If so, when?
Will iOS ever change? Which new feature will you be missing on your 12 month old device for no good reason?

It's a shame the 800 didn't have the specs of the N9 but it looks like the 910 will sort that out.

surfbored  Feb. 11, 2012 at 22:56

Have had my Nokia Lumia for about 2 weeks now and after getting used to touchscreen (i know i know...just took me while to get off contract) I really like it. The back button issue is a prob, but even the Andriod browsers don't have an exit on the menu...or so i believe from my Sensation wielding mate who uses taskiller.
(btw - to exit the browser, head to tabs, close them all, then just back once will close it...thats only about 4-5 taps generally for me). the Office suite is a huge bonus for me and anything over 10Gb storage is fine. i like music not storing it on my phone...i'm a musician so 4-5 albums swapped each month plus a few vids is fine. it's speedy, plays music, lets me write and save docs & speadsheets online, runs a free metronome, plays some vids, takes pics & i'm happy with it on a redemption deal from the Tea-Mob. £20month was my upper limit and i think i've got a great phone for that.

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 12, 2012 at 14:10

Currently I'm tinkering with a Nokia N9 - and, since in terms of hardware and built they're almost twins, I can sure understand how anyone would be impressed... But mass storage mode is just not something I'll do without on my "main" phone. Well, and the tiles of the WP UI just aren't my thing.

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 12, 2012 at 14:17

Ooh, N9...pretty :).

When did you acquire that? Is it actually bearable to use everyday? Is MeeGo actually any good? All these questions... :p.

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 12, 2012 at 14:58

Ooh, N9...pretty :).

When did you acquire that? Is it actually bearable to use everyday? Is MeeGo actually any good? All these questions... :p.

Got it when I realised that Belle doesn't improve the X7's keyboard one iota... Traded up.
Is the N9 usable day to day? Yes. Or: no...

I'll see in a couple of days - and I don't wanna hijack this thread

orusworam  Feb. 12, 2012 at 15:32

[quote]Ooh, N9...pretty :).

Is the N9 usable day to day? Yes. Or: no...



I rather not hijack this thread either, but I have been using the N9 for over 2 months.

I love it. There is just no other way to say it. The swipe and minimalistic interface is incredible.

Phone works great
Internet (Wifi/3.5G) works great
Email - works decent, some bugs, gitting fixed in next update, i hope.
SMS/MMS - works great
Navigation - 200% better than any stand alone navigation
Games - many free choices
Browsing - faster than most mobile phones. Need some more features for the browser, but it is very good.
Camera - Takes very good pics very fast
What else, I don't know, but everything I want it to do, it does it, better than any other phones I owned, including iPhone

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 12, 2012 at 16:24

[quote]Ooh, N9...pretty :).

Is the N9 usable day to day? Yes. Or: no...



I rather not hijack this thread either, but I have been using the N9 for over 2 months.

I love it. There is just no other way to say it. The swipe and minimalistic interface is incredible.

Phone works great
Internet (Wifi/3.5G) works great
Email - works decent, some bugs, gitting fixed in next update, i hope.
SMS/MMS - works great
Navigation - 200% better than any stand alone navigation
Games - many free choices
Browsing - faster than most mobile phones. Need some more features for the browser, but it is very good.
Camera - Takes very good pics very fast
What else, I don't know, but everything I want it to do, it does it, better than any other phones I owned, including iPhone


Cam is excellent, imho. Agree...

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 12, 2012 at 16:30

orusworam
What is your N9's battery performance like?
I've only really used my N9 for 2 days, and it's abysmal...worse than my N900 was with a LOT more use... (I have WiFi, BT and 3G disabled on the N9)

[APOLOGIES, OP - didn't mean to hijack your thread. Though, in fairness, the 2 phones are quite similar :p ]

orusworam  Feb. 14, 2012 at 17:33

orusworam
What is your N9's battery performance like?
I've only really used my N9 for 2 days, and it's abysmal...worse than my N900 was with a LOT more use... (I have WiFi, BT and 3G disabled on the N9)

[APOLOGIES, OP - didn't mean to hijack your thread. Though, in fairness, the 2 phones are quite similar :p ]


I am a heavy phone, text and email user. I use the phone for my business use all. Since I have unlimited minutes, text and data from T-Mobile USA, I really use it all the time.

I charge the phone most nights. In the morning when I pick up the phone I usually have about 94-96% charged ( I used to check this first couple weeks after I bought it. On N9, apparently it stops charging when full charge)

When I get back home in the evening after a full day's of business use, I usually have about 70% charge left. My kids (twins, they fight for my phone) and plays games on it for couple hours and it goes to powersave (I set at 30%) mode. It is usually has about 30% when I put it back on charge at night again.

If I don't use it for heavy games, it can easily last for 2 days.

I never disable my WiFi or 3G. I don't use BT much. When it goes to powersave mode, it automatically disconnects the 3G, wifi to save power. Even at power saver mode, it says over 1 day of standby time and maybe 3-4 hours of active time

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 18:25

orusworam
What is your N9's battery performance like?
I've only really used my N9 for 2 days, and it's abysmal...worse than my N900 was with a LOT more use... (I have WiFi, BT and 3G disabled on the N9)

[APOLOGIES, OP - didn't mean to hijack your thread. Though, in fairness, the 2 phones are quite similar :p ]


I am a heavy phone, text and email user. I use the phone for my business use all. Since I have unlimited minutes, text and data from T-Mobile USA, I really use it all the time.

I charge the phone most nights. In the morning when I pick up the phone I usually have about 94-96% charged ( I used to check this first couple weeks after I bought it. On N9, apparently it stops charging when full charge)

When I get back home in the evening after a full day's of business use, I usually have about 70% charge left. My kids (twins, they fight for my phone) and plays games on it for couple hours and it goes to powersave (I set at 30%) mode. It is usually has about 30% when I put it back on charge at night again.

If I don't use it for heavy games, it can easily last for 2 days.

I never disable my WiFi or 3G. I don't use BT much. When it goes to powersave mode, it automatically disconnects the 3G, wifi to save power. Even at power saver mode, it says over 1 day of standby time and maybe 3-4 hours of active time


That is surprising.
The unit I am using is the worst battery offender I have ever used.
It's worse than the N900.
Fully charged at 8PM I look at the Battery stats in "Device". It states 5 1/2 hrs talktime and, gulp, 37 hrs standby. NOT EVEN 2 days standby on 2G without WiFi or location services!!!!!

But wait, it gets better: so at 8.15PM I put it in airplane mode. And at 7AM I have 40% left!

Yesterday I downloaded Opera Mobile - I think some 20MB. Over WiFi. That download cost 30% battery.

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 18:32

Jan, that sounds more like a faulty battery than the N9 as a phone being blighted with awful battery life...

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 20:52

Jan, that sounds more like a faulty battery than the N9 as a phone being blighted with awful battery life...

Yes, it does sound like that. But there are actually worse N9 stories out there.
I'll go through a few more cycles before I decide what to do ;)

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 21:39

So basically the OS is so unpolished that it's allowed to absolutely ravage the battery as and when it pleases?

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 21:53

So basically the OS is so unpolished that it's allowed to absolutely ravage the battery as and when it pleases?

Well...
Yesterday I updated to latest Firmware. Today I did a factory reset, and oddly, now it shows 6 1/2 hrs talktime and 8 days standby.

Will see what it says tomorrow morning ;)

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 22:15

What are the battery figures quoted by Nokia?

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 22:50

What are the battery figures quoted by Nokia?

Talk-time (maximum):

GSM 11 hours
WCDMA (3G) 6.5 hours

Standby time (maximum):

GSM 340 hours
WCDMA (3G) 420 hours

There's a new update. Will do that tmorrow :)

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 22:58

You've said before you don't get 3G where you live so you're currently getting:

6.5/11hrs Talk-time (59% of what Nokia claim)
192/420hrs Standby (46% of what Nokia claim)

So averaging those two percentages you're currently getting 52.5% of the battery life that Nokia claim you should be getting...that's pretty bad for a phone which is, at most, a few months old.

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 23:04

Jan, slight off topic question, are your Mobot notifications "stuck", as in are they going away once you've read the relevant post? Mine aren't...

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 23:28

Jan, slight off topic question, are your Mobot notifications "stuck", as in are they going away once you've read the relevant post? Mine aren't...
same here... oh my

matt101101 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2012 at 23:32

I think we need to break the news to the devs that they broke something when they were fiddling with the notification system today...

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 15, 2012 at 07:29

I hope the devs will notice themselves ;)
And lastly about the N9 (sorry OP): seems the factory reset after the firmware upgrade fixed the battery issue. No leakage overnight. Did I mention the fw download for the N9 weighs 1.2 GB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost 2x Ubuntu. And as much as the Lion 10.7.3 update.

Did I also mention that the 16GB version - out of the box - leaves 9GB for user content!!??!! 7GB reserved for system and apps!!!!!!!!! Hell, there aren't enough apps in the store to fill a gig LOL

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