Nokia Lumia 820 ditches PureView and HD+ display tech for a mid-range WP8 price tag

Nokia Lumia 820 ditches PureView and HD+ display tech for a mid-range WP8 price tagIt may have been overshadowed by the high-end Nokia Lumia 920, but the Lumia 820 also made its debut in New York today, offering much of the same features.

The screen size is slightly smaller at 4.3in, and at a lower 800 x 480 resolution, but wireless charging support is present and correct, as is the same dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 processor.

In terms of design the Lumia 820 looks like a mix of the new Lumia 920 and the existing Lumia 800, with the same colourful polycarbonate shell as both, though the chassis is more rounded than the Lumia 920.

In dropping from the Lumia 920's 4.5in display to the 4.3-incher on board the 820, Nokia has also dropped the fancy-pants PureMotion HD+ WXGA display for a more conventional 800 x 480 ClearBlack panel.

The back panel is interchangeable, which will suit those apparently free souls who want to change their phone colour every other day (though I've never met any of them myself, to be honest). More importantly, it also allows you to attach the Qi wireless charging shell, which is how you, well, charge the Lumia 820 wirelessly.

NFC support is another wireless communication box ticked, so the Lumia 820 can chat to (and potentially charge through) the growing crop of wireless accessories now available such as new JBL speakers and the pricey Purity headphones.

You're restricted to just 8GB of on-board storage as opposed to its big brother's 32GB, but microSD card support should help you avoid feeling the pinch too badly.

The camera is potentially the biggest area of compromise, as the Lumia 820 ditches the PureView imaging magic for a plain-Jane 8MP sensor, though you do get a dual-LED flash and full HD video capture.

Nothing yet on when it'll be available, or the all-important price, but hopefully Nokia won't keep us waiting too long.

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Stelph  Sep. 5, 2012 at 16:52

Flipping heck, when will mobile companies realise that smaller phones means deliberatly crippling features? Theres got to be a large market of people out there who dont want to miss out on top specced phones but dont want to have massive slabs of phones in our pockets

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 16:57

Where's Jan with the wireless charging comment induced spanking for MJ

AhmadCentral  Sep. 5, 2012 at 17:09

Flipping heck, when will mobile companies realise that smaller phones means deliberatly crippling features? Theres got to be a large market of people out there who dont want to miss out on top specced phones but dont want to have massive slabs of phones in our pockets

100% Agree,

Just because a phone doesn't have a big screen doesn't mean it shouldn't have the latest tech. The S2 and Sensation (4.3") were both market leaders, before them the Desire S (3.7")

But now you have to have 4.5/4.7" just to keep up with todays tech.

It's why i like companies like Huawei and Zte and loads of other chinese companies like Meizu, xiaomi, Jiayu etc... who can build good value phones without making them massive.

This phone has a good processor but thats it. Display isn't great. Battery seems like it might die within a couple of hours.

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 18:01

On plus side it should feel faster and has potential for higher storage...
Tbh though if the 920 is too big the 820 at 0.1" (c2.5mm) less wide will likely feel too big as well, though I guess the s2 is only another 0.1" smaller.
820 pentile too....
920 as weighty as the Note 2... oO

http://www.theverge.com/products/compare/6082/6083/3272/5588/5239/2783

barrybarryk  Sep. 5, 2012 at 19:18

I like the look of the 820, if the price is right I'll pick up one of these around Christmas when my contract is up.

Everyone that's had hands on with it says it's really fast and smooth. I couldn't care less about the 'geek cred specs' as long as it's responsive and adding cores yields very very limited returns after two cores.

The display doesn't bother me because it's a bloody phone. I don't need a 720p+ display on it, it's not for watching movies or general web browsing or playing games or any of the other nonsense some people use their phones for that benefits from higher quality display, it's a phone, I'll use it to call, text, tweet, send the odd email and generally stay in contact with people.

The camera doesn't bother me because 8MP is more than enough for me, I'm not a photographer and when I do want to take high quality pictures I'll use my camera and not my phone. I don't need or want to be paying for, carrying around and powering tech I'm not interested in.

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 19:54

Sounds like you don't even need a smartphone really.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 20:03

I wonder what "midrange" price means? Will they p*ss off people who paid £400-ish for the LUMIA 800? (it's still €400+ on prepay over here).
I like the Lumia 920 better for the camera specs, but I still want more info about WP8 before I judge the duo...

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 20:14

I'm guessing 820 at £350+ to start, based on nothing in particular....

Ever play with a 900 as seems fairly similar to the 820 in size.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 20:33

I just 'fondled' the 900 for a minute or so... nice feel, speedy.

Anyways, I really expected to learn more about WP8 today - what good are all those great features if the OS fails? Not saying it will, but I feel like a car saleman was trying to sell me a car that I wasn't allowed to drive. And the lack of launch details show that Nokia still haven't learned a thing in that regard. The main competitors announce a phone an often they are in the shops within a week or 2. Nokia wouldn't even list the countries?!!!
Q4? Gee, thanks... the E7 was what? 6 months late? 8?

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 20:40

Launch date not really up to Nokia this time though, well the earliest possible one anyway...

I don't remember the e7 launch, like most people I expect, maybe they want to beat Huawei's D Quad delay. ;)

Guessing they couldn't say much about the OS either, maybe more about it will appear if those attending were allowed to play with the phones a bit. All what great features btw?

barrybarryk  Sep. 5, 2012 at 20:46

More than likely Nokia couldn't announce the release specifics, since it would give away the Win Phone 8 launch dates (same as Samsung when they revealed the Ativ S). Rumours still suggest late October, for all the Win 8 phones we've seen so far, pricing is anyones guess though

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 20:57

More than likely Nokia couldn't announce the release specifics, since it would give away the Win Phone 8 launch dates (same as Samsung when they revealed the Ativ S). Rumours still suggest late October, for all the Win 8 phones we've seen so far, pricing is anyones guess though

Yes, I understand.
It's still a dicey strategy though imho... Not for me personally, and realistically it shouldn't be a problem for any human being; but we live in fickle times. I followed this event on Twitter, and after the initial #yay period, a definite "huh?" hum set in... Especially American 'observers' seemed genuinely confused when they realised they couldn't order the 920 straightaway :p Maybe decades of TV-channelling warped their consumer-souls?
Then there was the Murtazin club spewing info about Nokia's shares price dropping every 1.1 seconds, due to perceived lack of details yada yada...

I'm kind of neutral. Both devices announced today are definitely on my will-try list. But "Next Wednesday" has become a tiny bit more interesting. The 920 seems more interesting to me (!) than the SGS3.

barrybarryk  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:06

That's just the very vocal minority though, the vast, vast majority of phones aren't sold on pre-orders or by the sort of people that watch the press events. With Windows branding and advertising set to be everywhere this holiday season I can see people shifting serious WP8 handsets this year, probably under some nonsense premise of tighter Win 8 intergration, even though iOS and Android will work in the exact same way even if it does require an extra free 'app'.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:12

True, barry...
Actually, bar some major launch disaster (or the iPhone 5 coming with SD-card and mass storage mode...heck: and cydia out of the box) I can see those Lumias shifting a few units.
I bet those screens look very very impressive instore. I love the N9 screen, but the 920 especially promises to be something truly special.

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:22

I really can't see them scaring anyone with sales figures, well maybe rim

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:28

I really can't see them scaring anyone with sales figures, well maybe rim

Scaring? No, probably not. But an increase in sales.
I thing launching WP7 was a mistake. They (MS) should have waited.
Deliver a more finished product.
Anyway - I prefer not to have to pick between iOS and Android only. Although... could I pay fpr something with MS on the box? Time (and Treab) will tell...

AhmadCentral  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:33

I think this will sell slightly better than their previous lumia handsets. But personally I don't see that many advantages over what I have now.

Btw Jan i'm greeting the moderation comments in that twitter thread again

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:36

I'll take a look ;)

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:37

hahahaha :p

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 21:41

I really can't see them scaring anyone with sales figures, well maybe rim

Scaring? No, probably not. But an increase in sales.
I thing launching WP7 was a mistake. They (MS) should have waited.
Deliver a more finished product.
Anyway - I prefer not to have to pick between iOS and Android only. Although... could I pay fpr something with MS on the box? Time (and Treab) will tell...


Well that wouldn't be too hard...
Maybe, certainly Nokia getting so heavily involved in wp7 was a mistake, they definitely should have waited. Does it look too similar too wp7 albeit more detailed?
Treab?
920 has no memory slot is that right?

On plus side both have nfc eh ;)

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 5, 2012 at 22:32

Here's the thing: Apple already know too much about me thanks to iTunes etc... Android/Google also... Do I want another corporation middlemanning my private life?
Not sure... That's another aspect I'm considering.
Which, by the by: what is it with MS/Nokia? 7point5 GB skydrive? PointFive?

barrybarryk  Sep. 5, 2012 at 22:49

Just had to check my SkyDrive there to see if it was the same. I've 25GB apparently, I thought it was just 5Gb

Pondlife  Sep. 5, 2012 at 22:55

7gb I thought*, would think they'd up it to 8 for W8, WP8 wouldn't you :)

* but I noted that the Lumia 800 has 25gb skydrive storage according to nokia's gb site, but then again see that they dropped that to 7gb in April unless people were already using 4gb.. So 7gb probably.
Mine's 25gb too though ;)

Stelph  Sep. 6, 2012 at 10:28

I like the look of the 820, if the price is right I'll pick up one of these around Christmas when my contract is up.

Everyone that's had hands on with it says it's really fast and smooth. I couldn't care less about the 'geek cred specs' as long as it's responsive and adding cores yields very very limited returns after two cores.

The display doesn't bother me because it's a bloody phone. I don't need a 720p+ display on it, it's not for watching movies or general web browsing or playing games or any of the other nonsense some people use their phones for that benefits from higher quality display, it's a phone, I'll use it to call, text, tweet, send the odd email and generally stay in contact with people.

The camera doesn't bother me because 8MP is more than enough for me, I'm not a photographer and when I do want to take high quality pictures I'll use my camera and not my phone. I don't need or want to be paying for, carrying around and powering tech I'm not interested in.


Thats fine for you, but what about me? Personally I want a phone which has great specs, I regularly take photos and web browse/game etc a lot on mine so I want the very best, what I dont want tho is a phone that is over 4" as its just overkill

Pondlife  Sep. 6, 2012 at 11:06

Motorola almost got that bit right then, but even the razr m is bigger than 4" looks quite compact for all that thought.

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