Nokia: Symbian smartphones still outselling Windows Phones by five to one

Nokia: Symbian smartphones still outselling Windows Phones by five to one

Nokia's rather painful public transformation continues. The latest quarterly figures are incoming, and the company is warning of a 3% loss over the first three months of the year – worse than the already bleak -2% to break even ballpark previously expected.

In terms of handset sales, the Windows Phone revolution continues at a decidedly gentle pace. A total of 2m WinPho Nokias were sold in Q1, still way down on the 10m figure achieved by its unwanted Symbian range.

That, let's not forget, comes more than a year after Nokia boss Stephen Elop announced that Symbian was a burning platform and Windows Phone was the future. Doesn't seem to be burning particularly quickly, does it Stevo?

Anyway, rightly or wrongly Symbian represents Nokia's past, and Windows Phone and the Series 40 feature phone OS are its future. Problem is it's not going too well no matter how you look at things.

Cue Elop and some undiluted marketingspeak via a statement: “Our disappointing devices & services first quarter 2012 financial results and outlook for the second quarter 2012 illustrates that our devices & services business continues to be in the midst of transition.

“Within our smart devices business unit, we have established early momentum with Lumia, and we are increasing our investments in Lumia to achieve market success.

“Our operator and distributor partners are providing solid support for Windows Phone as a third ecosystem, as evidenced most recently by the launch of the Lumia 900 by AT&T in the United States.”

The full earnings report is expected next week, but whatever the details are, one thing remains clear: another three months have passed, and we're still waiting for any meaningful signs of the big Nokia turnaround Elop keeps promising is coming.

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Pondlife  Apr. 11, 2012 at 18:45

In q1 weren't the wp7 ones rather dearer than symbian ones?

5:1 is rather bad though. Backing wrong horse to the extent of a bet on eeyore or have they backed the tortoise that'll beat the hare in the end.
Cheap 710 and potential for 900 if pitched at right price should see an improvement at least

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 11, 2012 at 18:55

Nokia's value is now $12bn and change... Apple should buy'em and feck Foxconn...

There has never been anything like this, I'm telling you! Elop will make economic history in all the wrong ways.

SpeedyG  Apr. 11, 2012 at 18:55

Don't forget the cheaper upcoming 610 as well pondlife.

Symbian may be a dead horse, but at least it's still bringing home the bacon. ;)

Pondlife  Apr. 11, 2012 at 19:02

Well theoretically cheaper but currently priced higher.
Bit odd that I know 3 wp7 nokias but not one current symbian one off the top of my head. I do know the 808 of course but not released yet :)

ghatch  Apr. 11, 2012 at 19:07

preparing for a grilling but................. whats so wrong with symbian? Granted I've not had a symbian phone for a few years now but spec wise etc they seem ok, are they not?

Pondlife  Apr. 11, 2012 at 19:18

Nokia decided it wasn't good enough anymore and was why they were selling less phones. Not convinced they are right.
I liked my last symbian phone but the os was a bit clunky and slow, and the ovi store was the suckiest store I've ever tried to use.

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 11, 2012 at 20:23

Pond life, I take it you haven't used RIM's AppWorld? Actually, Nokia store is well okay, now...

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 11, 2012 at 20:24

Seriously though: I think with Belle the X7 is better than the N9 or Lumias.

Pondlife  Apr. 11, 2012 at 20:34

Pond life, I take it you haven't used RIM's AppWorld? Actually, Nokia store is well okay, now...

Only seen it on playbook os2, seems pleasant enough on there. Couldn't even find it on first version lol.

Used to type in a search on ovi and then it used to seem to ignore it and pick some random things instead.

Pondlife  Apr. 11, 2012 at 20:40

Seriously though: I think with Belle the X7 is better than the N9 or Lumias.

Pretty weak specs and definitely had a battering with the ugly stick. No idea if it's better than them, but going by specs I'd take the 900 over it in a heartbeat

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 11, 2012 at 20:50

Belle is the lightest least bloated Symbian ever. It really doesn't need the hardware that Android or WP require.
It multitasks properly, it has mass storage, USB-otg etc etc... And though it's not exactly photogenic IMHO, it is rock solid.
Not saying I'd buy one at full price, but forced to choose between Lumia, N9 and X7, I would take the X7 ...

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 11, 2012 at 20:51

...on a BB phone AppWorld is definitely the worst AppStore of them all....

martinjjames / MOD  Apr. 12, 2012 at 09:52

Belle is the lightest least bloated Symbian ever. It really doesn't need the hardware that Android or WP require.
It multitasks properly, it has mass storage, USB-otg etc etc... And though it's not exactly photogenic IMHO, it is rock solid.
Not saying I'd buy one at full price, but forced to choose between Lumia, N9 and X7, I would take the X7 ...


X7 over the N9? oO

Got rid of my X7 just before the Belle update came along, which is a shame cos I reckon Belle would have made the biggest difference out of all the existing Symbian bunch.

In terms of design / construction, though, it's a bit of a clunker. Well put together, but not much of a looker. Hmmm, that's surely the perfect tee-up for a clever "kind of like" punchline, but I can't think of anything except "kind of like Lewis", and I'm just not going there oO

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 12, 2012 at 09:55

Belle is the lightest least bloated Symbian ever. It really doesn't need the hardware that Android or WP require.
It multitasks properly, it has mass storage, USB-otg etc etc... And though it's not exactly photogenic IMHO, it is rock solid.
Not saying I'd buy one at full price, but forced to choose between Lumia, N9 and X7, I would take the X7 ...


X7 over the N9? oO

Got rid of my X7 just before the Belle update came along, which is a shame cos I reckon Belle would have made the biggest difference out of all the existing Symbian bunch.

In terms of design / construction, though, it's a bit of a clunker. Well put together, but not much of a looker. Hmmm, that's surely the perfect tee-up for a clever "kind of like" punchline, but I can't think of anything except "kind of like Lewis", and I'm just not going there oO


I would've given you my N9 for your X7!
Have you used the N9? Do you want to? (drop me a line)

barrrf  Apr. 12, 2012 at 10:48

Curses! I deliberately avoided getting a Nokia Symbian phone after the Microsoft infestation, but had I known I could have contributed to these embarrassing numbers I might have acted differently.

Pondlife  Apr. 12, 2012 at 12:46

You'd give that away for practically anything though Jan :p

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 12, 2012 at 13:02

You'd give that away for practically anything though Jan :p

Yeah :p What have you got? ;)

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 12, 2012 at 14:13

Seriously though, if you followed today's news, you now know that under Elop Nokia's smartphone business zombified.

Unless they U-turn and refocus on Symbian and QT with a dose of MeeGo (but this time around not the half-hearted stuff we can thank, erm, oh yes, Elop for)...well, they will die.

Windows Phone will not make it. Mark my words :p

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