O2 to appeal Everything Everywhere’s LTE rollout

O2 to appeal Everything Everywhere’s LTE rolloutHere’s another one you can file under “Obvious” alongside yesterday’s revelation that No one really cares about Windows Phone.

O2, rapidly gaining a reputation as the moaniest network in the UK alongside Vodafone (Three is comparatively quiet), will officially appeal Everything Everywhere’s imminent LTE rollout in the UK.

We first heard news of Everything Everywhere’s LTE plans back in February, when the network (Orange and T-Mobile combined, essentially) announced that it hoped to provide the UK with “the 21st Century network that it so deserves” – before the end of 2012.

However, that was always subject to Ofcom approval, and in March we learned that the decision had been delayed, largely thanks to moany old O2 and Vodafone.

Fast-forward to mid-August, almost six months later, and Ofcom somewhat surprisingly announced that it had in fact approved the rollout, from September 11.

According to a report in The Guardian, O2’s dad, Telefonica, has written to Ofcom expressing its concerns, with a “threat of legal action”. That’s not surprising, really; O2 seems to think everything is illegal. Other than having a 24-hour network outage (zing!).

Regardless of the outcome, O2's complaining is likely to stall Everything Everywhere's plans to get the ball rolling from September 11. Heck, that's less than two weeks away.

Over to you, Vodafone.

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matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 31, 2012 at 18:11

On the basis O2 don't yet have what can confidently be called a national 3G network yet, I think they should pipe down. Why anyone chooses to use O2 baffles me, they seem to be expensive and poor all at the same time.

Pondlife  Aug. 31, 2012 at 18:43

All the more reason they wouldn't want to be left behind on 4G too I guess...

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 31, 2012 at 19:07

All the more reason they wouldn't want to be left behind on 4G too I guess...
Hopefully the fact they're just trying to hold everyone back until their useless network is improved, is noticed by the court.

Pondlife  Aug. 31, 2012 at 19:27

Unlike ee trying to delay the auction to make sure they get most benefit of early start

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 31, 2012 at 19:29

Unlike ee trying to delay the auction to make sure they get most benefit of early start
That was a threat in retaliation to a threat, though. They only said they'd do that if the other networks took legal action.

Pondlife  Aug. 31, 2012 at 19:48

None of this bunch are innocents, still seems bad idea to give them headstart

citibadger  Aug. 31, 2012 at 22:10

Hopefully Vodafone keep out of this arguement, they're incapable of running a decent 3g (or even 2g) service in my local area. No 3g since May, so god knows what they'd be like trying to run 4g? It should only be licenced to these operators when they can show that they are able to run their existing systems.

Thefunboi  Aug. 31, 2012 at 23:29

Arseholes. O2 didnt cry when they had the first few years exclusivity on iphones... Cone to think of it, neither did te other networks so come on O2, fair is fair....

dcx_badass  Aug. 31, 2012 at 23:33

On the basis O2 don't yet have what can confidently be called a national 3G network yet, I think they should pipe down. Why anyone chooses to use O2 baffles me, they seem to be expensive and poor all at the same time.

Used O2 for 12 years, never had a single problem, great customer service, free phone unlocks, can port your number using a MAC code within the network to take advantage of cashback and new customer offers. They offer loads other networks don't.

matt101101 / MOD  Aug. 31, 2012 at 23:57

On the basis O2 don't yet have what can confidently be called a national 3G network yet, I think they should pipe down. Why anyone chooses to use O2 baffles me, they seem to be expensive and poor all at the same time.

Used O2 for 12 years, never had a single problem, great customer service, free phone unlocks, can port your number using a MAC code within the network to take advantage of cashback and new customer offers. They offer loads other networks don't.

Just no 3G coverage for more of the country than any other network? I guess if you happen to live, work and spend most of your time in an area with a 3G signal, O2 is a perfectly reasonable network. Or, if you're not interested in 3G and just want to make calls and send texts then O2's 2G network is as good as that of any of the other UK networks (obviously bar Three, who barely have a 2G network).

Pondlife  Sep. 1, 2012 at 00:10

Arseholes. O2 didnt cry when they had the first few years exclusivity on iphones... Cone to think of it, neither did te other networks so come on O2, fair is fair....

How the hell is that similar?

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 1, 2012 at 00:26

Arseholes. O2 didnt cry when they had the first few years exclusivity on iphones... Cone to think of it, neither did te other networks so come on O2, fair is fair....

How the hell is that similar?

I think his point is that O2 had a significant financial and marketing advantage being the only UK network to carry the iPhone for several generations. Therefore O2 have had significant advantages over the rest of the market in the past and:

a) They didn't hold off and wait for everyone else to work out iPhone deals
b) The other networks didn't start throwing around lawsuits b*tching about how unfair it was (I haven't looked into whether that's true or not, just I think that was what he was trying to say).

Basically, his point (I think) was that O2 have had their own advantages over the rest of the marker before and they weren't so opposed to that when they were the ones benefiting.

dcx_badass  Sep. 1, 2012 at 00:44

O2 paid for the iphone exclusivity, everyone had the same opportunity, unlike this 4G.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 1, 2012 at 00:49

O2 paid for the iphone exclusivity, everyone had the same opportunity, unlike this 4G.
Just to put it out there, I was attempting to better word the views of "Thefunboi", I was not expressing my own opinion on the O2 iPhone exclusivity issue.

Pondlife  Sep. 1, 2012 at 01:06

Well I understood the wording as it was just thought it was a **** comparison of the two events.

Reser  Sep. 1, 2012 at 05:05

I think Ofcoms decision came down to what was best for the public.

Right now the UK is WAY behind in the 4G department and being able to get ANY sort of 4G this year will be fantastic and will finally get us more inline with the the rest of the world.

If they had not approved EE's 4g We would be waiting until at least mid 2013 before we had any sort of 4G, would be utterly riicuous. and now if bloody O2 have their way we will be waiting until early 2013 at least.

martyn_3000  Sep. 1, 2012 at 10:37

On the basis O2 don't yet have what can confidently be called a national 3G network yet, I think they should pipe down. Why anyone chooses to use O2 baffles me, they seem to be expensive and poor all at the same time.

I'm sure O2 has some of the best 3G coverage... I have friends on Orange and Vodafone, and neither of them get the 3G coverage I do on O2. I think Vodafone has the best 2G coverage.

Reser  Sep. 2, 2012 at 01:30

On the basis O2 don't yet have what can confidently be called a national 3G network yet, I think they should pipe down. Why anyone chooses to use O2 baffles me, they seem to be expensive and poor all at the same time.

I'm sure O2 has some of the best 3G coverage... I have friends on Orange and Vodafone, and neither of them get the 3G coverage I do on O2. I think Vodafone has the best 2G coverage.


So because O2 has coverage where you are they have "some sort of the best", sorry you are wrong.

O2 has the worst coverage of the main 5 operators, they even got warned by Ofcom at one point for not having "enough coverage" See - http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/171984/ofcom-threatens-to-cut-short-o2s-3g-licence

Orange has one of the best coverages of 3G, Three has the best coverage.

You have a warped view on who has good 3G.

jaybear88  Sep. 2, 2012 at 11:43

When I had to sell bloody phones, there was a standardised conversation that I had every day due to the warped mindset of my area:

Customer: Hello, I want an o2 phone.
Me: Ok, where do you live?
Customer: *******
Me: O2 is the only network that doesn't work there
Customer: Yea, but o2 is still the best
Me: Where do you work?
Customer: *******
Me: O2 doesn't work there either
Customer: Yea, but o2 is still the best
Me: why do you want o2?
Customer: Because o2 gives me free texts to other o2 users
Me: Every other network will give you free texts to ALL other networks
Customer: Yea, but o2 is still the best

Repeat until savagely beating customer with an N95 or giving in and getting the damn o2 phone.

Sorry, rant over.

Pondlife  Sep. 2, 2012 at 11:49

Sounds like a fun job.

Pondlife  Sep. 2, 2012 at 12:16

O2 has the worst coverage of the main 5 operators, they even got warned by Ofcom at one point for not having "enough coverage" See - http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/171984/ofcom-threatens-to-cut-short-o2s-3g-licence

How good for Ofcom to make it look like they have teeth, threatening to cut 4 months from their 3g licence in 2021 when it'll be pretty much done with anyway.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 2, 2012 at 17:32

When I had to sell bloody phones, there was a standardised conversation that I had every day due to the warped mindset of my area:

Customer: Hello, I want an o2 phone.
Me: Ok, where do you live?
Customer: *******
Me: O2 is the only network that doesn't work there
Customer: Yea, but o2 is still the best
Me: Where do you work?
Customer: *******
Me: O2 doesn't work there either
Customer: Yea, but o2 is still the best
Me: why do you want o2?
Customer: Because o2 gives me free texts to other o2 users
Me: Every other network will give you free texts to ALL other networks
Customer: Yea, but o2 is still the best

Repeat until savagely beating customer with an N95 or giving in and getting the damn o2 phone.

Sorry, rant over.

Yay, someone who understands that just because a network has a good signal in your area, doesn't mean it does everywhere else in the country. Jay, I think we're a rare breed, other people seem to be missing the gene that lets them comprehend this fact.

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