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New Opera Webkit browser for Android? Like it?

Today Opera launched the new webkit-based browser for Android.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.browser.beta&referrer=utm_source%3Dintern_opera_com%26utm_medium%3D/_via_download-front1%26utm_content%3D%28direct%29%20%28none%29%26utm_campaign%3D%28direct%29_via_opera_com

https://lh3.ggpht.com/Qae56fJs3HnLcdnOGbe-s3r3zsCa4qCe3F0YNeZf7p2SCOc6P3dvLX-2oaQu8JVxJQ

Have I missed something? It sucks, right?
Too early for a public launch?
No bookmarks - speed dials only.
A browser famous for data savings adds a "discover" feature - throwing unwanted sites at you to, ahem, discover... hm. Is everyone now trying to best flipboard?

Anyhoo... whatcha think?

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Pondlife  Mar. 6, 2013 at 01:22

Well I don't like opera and it looks weak so I'll pass. :)
Isn't a lot of the data saving by giving you crappy low res versions of pics?
Some comments that it's really fast and some that it doesn't really work.

Can see why someone on 4g (as in the pic) would need to save data though ;)

lutin  Mar. 6, 2013 at 10:34

It's in beta.

beta

beta

That's why they called it Opera beta.

You can't really moan about missing features for a product that's not out of beta yet. Those features will come.

lutin  Mar. 6, 2013 at 10:52

Well I don't like opera and it looks weak so I'll pass. :)
Isn't a lot of the data saving by giving you crappy low res versions of pics?


Well, yes, the images are lower res, that's one way they save on the data transfer - you can't have your cake and eat it!

I'm pretty sure they also use the opera mini rendering engine when in the off-road mode, which means you're downloading the site in a slightly different format (not html) which has a much smaller payload.

NgafHype  Mar. 6, 2013 at 10:58

If you want to use the Chromium webkit, why not just use Chrome :S

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:24

It's in beta.

beta

beta

That's why they called it Opera beta.

You can't really moan about missing features for a product that's not out of beta yet. Those features will come.


Yes, good point.
And, of course, it's Android - where everything is always in "beta" because Android itself is. Neverteless, not a fan of the new look, the menu structure etc...
But we'll see how they progress.
And: they should have added the "discover" feature at a later point and start with bookmarks :p

It's better than all the other 3rd party browsers avilable, though, to be fair. I hate the trend towards bloat and more bloat.

lutin  Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:34

It's in beta.

beta

beta

That's why they called it Opera beta.

You can't really moan about missing features for a product that's not out of beta yet. Those features will come.


Yes, good point.
And, of course, it's Android - where everything is always in "beta" because Android itself is. Neverteless, not a fan of the new look, the menu structure etc...
But we'll see how they progress.
And: they should have added the "discover" feature at a later point and start with bookmarks :p


Agreed, it's not a feature that I would put ahead of things like bookmarks, but I think they wanted to have some sort of distinguishing features that would at least mark their product out from the rest of the of the pack.

lutin  Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:35

If you want to use the Chromium webkit, why not just use Chrome :S

Because of loads of reasons?

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:42

Well I don't like opera and it looks weak so I'll pass. :)
Isn't a lot of the data saving by giving you crappy low res versions of pics?
Some comments that it's really fast and some that it doesn't really work.

Can see why someone on 4g (as in the pic) would need to save data though ;)


No, the low res images are actually not the big saver... They make it possible to browse conveniently even on 2G. In "offroad" mode the big savings come from sending you the re-rendered obml version of websites - as Lutin said. Frankly, when I surf for news, do I need high res photos of Obama? I have seen him. I know what he looks like. Plenty of situations where images are just fodder.

Pondlife  Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:06

Maybe but if I wanted to look at ugly low res pictures I'd have kept the 5800.

The discover feature really looks intrusive and almost creepy, thought you'd have been against it for reasons other than it coming before bookmarks

Pondlife  Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:18

If you want to use the Chromium webkit, why not just use Chrome :S

If you want to use an android phone why not use nexus, if you are going to have a tv with an LG screen why not an LG. Not that I see any compelling reason to use this.

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:19

Maybe but if I wanted to look at ugly low res pictures I'd have kept the 5800.

The discover feature really looks intrusive and almost creepy, thought you'd have been against it for reasons other than it coming before bookmarks

Well, yes. And know. Yes, you can add any site you visit to speed dial, which, I s'pose, is kinda like Bookmarks. But: signing into Opera Link to sync your Bookmarks takes you to a list of your bookmarks. And then... nothing. No "import" or sync option. So you need to add that page to speed dial, then visit that page, visit all the bookmarked pages to add them individually to bookmarks...

Again: there probably is no browser that suits everyone. The N9 "MeeGo" browser has no bookmarks either. A page you bookmark becomes an icon in the apps screen. You can pile them all into one folder. That annoyed a lot of people (a "lot" is relative, I know... a million N9 owners...), but in "MeeGo" you just swipe to the right while you're browsing and there's your apps menu with all your bookmarks.

Anyhoo... not like I use Android much. And in the past Opera have frequently made massive improvements in Beta 2 and/or final release.

When is the iOS version due, anyone?

lutin  Mar. 6, 2013 at 13:01

Maybe but if I wanted to look at ugly low res pictures I'd have kept the 5800.

I don't quite get your drift.

You can use the browser normally, with high res images and all OR, if you're (for example) in a 2g area, you can switch to "off-road" mode which means websites will load quicker (thanks to compression and some opera jiggery-pokery).

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 6, 2013 at 13:08

Exactly. The low res setting is an alternative to disabling images completely when your connection sucks. It can be useful when an image is needed, but quality doesn't matter - say you're looking up a business location. You're in a 2G area... you just need that little map to pinpoint the address. That doesn't require a high quality setting. Or you browse Amazon - you don't need high quality pics if you know what product you're looking for.

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