Deltaone

new phone and some advice needed

I am a Nokia fan boy, have the N8 love the phone, liking belle and consider build quality and camera to be the most important part of the phone to me, however have ditched my tom tom sat nav cos the nokia maps is so good and hate the slow unresponsive interface and internet of the N8, love paying next to nothing for the phone and having the cheapest sim only tariff I could find. What I am looking for is possibly the holy grail of phones, a great phone with a great camera, good browser and good/great sat nav at a good price point. I am willing to try WP7 or android, loved the look of the xperia s but have been disappointed by recent reviews, like the sound of the £18 pm galaxy s 2 on talk mobile but and this is a big but, with lots of new quad core and potential on the horizon I am completely torn in all directions. I could do with some help here.

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JanSt / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 18:35

It's not easy: the N8 has a still unrivalled cam (not even mentioning the Xenon flash, that Sony failed to put into the 12MP Xperia S pffft); it has an extraordinarily good build - better than the Lumia/N9 imho...

So, hell, I have no idea. You won't find a cam as good as the N8's - the iPhone 4S come close, especially as it offers excellent 3rd party apps to get the best from even the worst photos without the need for a complext editing program on your PC or Mac... I've gone through quite a few phones since I ditched my N8 (I just found it bad for typing loads...), and tbh, none covered all ground in a satisfying manner. The N9 is okay, but cam lacks Xenon and is poor in low light, and it lacks many apps, copy/paste etc etc... I'm not a big Android fan. I hate WP7.5... And the iPhone 4/4S is of course a pricey affair; and there's an iPhone 5 coming later this year, and Samsung's Galaxy S3 is just around the corner....

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 18:53

Best Android Phone: Samsung Galaxy S2
Best WP7 Phone: Lumia 800
Best iOS Phone: iPhone 4S

They're your three choices of phones that are already out, if you're willing to wait a while that is likely to turn into:

Best Android Phone: Samsung Galaxy S3
Best WP7 Phone: Nokia Lumia 900
Best iOS Phone iPhone 5/6 (whatever it ends up being called)


All depends how long you're willing to wait (probably until October for the iPhone) and how much you want to spend, really.

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 18:58

Little to argue. Though, the OP does point out the great hardware of the N8. It seems to be relevant to him/her; and with all respect: the SGS2 - as fantastic as it is overall - has nothing on the N8 or Lumia/N9 or a number of other phones in that regard. It's better than previous Galaxy models; but it's still a bit 'cheap' :p

But yes, matt's right

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 19:06

If the OP wants build quality then the HTC One S and One X are both coming out on the 5th of April (2 weeks and 2 days) so for a time the One X will be the best Android smartphone anyway (and the S4 processor in the One S is 28nm and faster than the aging Exynos 4210 in the S2), though I think the ceramic S3 will feel like a quality product.

In all honesty, I think if Samsung put needless "ballast" on the S2 just to make it heavier, 75% of people would stop saying it felt cheap, because they associate weight with quality. We've all seen that drop test video of the S2 vs 4S...plastic definitely has its advantages.

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 19:28

If the OP wants build quality then the HTC One S and One X are both coming out on the 5th of April (2 weeks and 2 days) so for a time the One X will be the best Android smartphone anyway (and the S4 processor in the One S is 28nm and faster than the aging Exynos 4210 in the S2), though I think the ceramic S3 will feel like a quality product.

In all honesty, I think if Samsung put needless "ballast" on the S2 just to make it heavier, 75% of people would stop saying it felt cheap, because they associate weight with quality. We've all seen that drop test video of the S2 vs 4S...plastic definitely has its advantages.


Absolutely. The iPhone 4/4S design is photogenic, but anyone using it without a good case is careless...
And yes, I was exaggerating: the SGS2 is better than the SGS, or Arc etc etc...
And as I said elsewhere, even the Lumia/N9 are not as tough as Nokia might want us to believe.

Pondlife  Mar. 20, 2012 at 20:11

So when's that nokia 808 out again ;)

Pondlife  Mar. 20, 2012 at 20:13

Best iOS Phone iPhone 5/6 (whatever it ends up being called)

No way they could call it iphone 6, it could just be the new iphone though.

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 20:15

So when's that nokia 808 out again ;)

With that ridiculously exposed and unprotected camera bump the 808 hardly qualifies :p

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 21:36

Best iOS Phone iPhone 5/6 (whatever it ends up being called)

No way they could call it iphone 6, it could just be the new iphone though.

The name wasn't really my point.... ;).

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 21:36

So when's that nokia 808 out again ;)

With that ridiculously exposed and unprotected camera bump the 808 hardly qualifies :p

+1, maybe when the tech. makes it to WP8.

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 21:38

If the OP wants build quality then the HTC One S and One X are both coming out on the 5th of April (2 weeks and 2 days) so for a time the One X will be the best Android smartphone anyway (and the S4 processor in the One S is 28nm and faster than the aging Exynos 4210 in the S2), though I think the ceramic S3 will feel like a quality product.

In all honesty, I think if Samsung put needless "ballast" on the S2 just to make it heavier, 75% of people would stop saying it felt cheap, because they associate weight with quality. We've all seen that drop test video of the S2 vs 4S...plastic definitely has its advantages.


Absolutely. The iPhone 4/4S design is photogenic, but anyone using it without a good case is careless...
And yes, I was exaggerating: the SGS2 is better than the SGS, or Arc etc etc...
And as I said elsewhere, even the Lumia/N9 are not as tough as Nokia might want us to believe.

Whoever thought that glass on both sides of a phone was a good idea, was an idiot. The Lumia scratches up quite easily doesn't it? As all "polycarbonate" is, is a posh name for plastic.

You can get an aluminium battery door for the S2 :p.

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 21:43

Yep, that industrial plastic Nokia used for the N900 stood up much better to abuse than the overhyped polycarbonate. Even the N8 I had too abuse better than my N9 - which I have hardly used...

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 21:55

Do you wish you'd never bought the N9 by any chance, in hindsight? Polycarbonate is just a posh word for plastic, it's just one type of plastic. Unfortunately the new HTC One X is made of "Polycarbonate", yet they used a far higher quality material on the One S (and an equally fast, if not faster processor, too).

JanSt / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 22:12

Do you wish you'd never bought the N9 by any chance, in hindsight? Polycarbonate is just a posh word for plastic, it's just one type of plastic. Unfortunately the new HTC One X is made of "Polycarbonate", yet they used a far higher quality material on the One S (and an equally fast, if not faster processor, too).

If I had bought the N9 for full price, I'd be p*ssed, alright. The swap was okay, and at least experiencing the N9 gives me an entirely new insight into the minds of reviewers who praised it :p

After 30 minutes...well, okay, after 2 days anyone should realise that it's utterly unfinished.

Deltaone  Mar. 20, 2012 at 22:14

Back to the question in point. Xperia S was my top choice since it was announced, Lumia 900 was a very close second due to my love of Nokias and SGS2 a third because of ...well just because, xperia S reviews have been poor which I hope is not just because evefryones upset about it not having ICS, the 900 will be a good phone but an 8meg camera and no xenon seems like a step back (been there done that with the N97) and SGS2 seems a little old hat with the SGS3 due in the next whenever. Iphone is a no no, not now not ever. HTC one X/S etc could be a similar story to the HTC sensation and the SGS2, same specs just not as good. Pureview 808, please, it seems like an experiment.

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 22:21

So basically you've narrowed it down to an SGS3 or an HTC One X/S? In that case, wait for preliminary reviews of the SGS3 and then make your decision. The SGS3 is likely to be a better phone than the HTC, well hardware wise anyway.

matt101101 / MOD  Mar. 20, 2012 at 22:25

Btw, the One S is an understated phone, that dual-core Krait 28nm S4 SoC is an absolute beast.

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