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What's the point in 3D phones?

Is it just games that run in 3D? Or is everything in 3D, including menus?

Most Useful Answer smileyadam  Sep. 7, 2011 at 14:41

I have the EVO 3d and have to say that for me the point is three fold, producing 3d media, sharing 3d media and enjoying 3d entertainment. Compared to the other products on the market these phones offer a low cost way to take 3d pictures and movies, and more importantly a screen large enough to view and share them in a convenient way. The effect is impressive and almost looks like looking into a live window on whatever is pictured. There is also a growing pool of 3d games and movies which are compatible and particularly with the EVO the 3d is employed in a sensible way, used with key features and coupled to a product that is a great smartphone in its own right.

Given how much fun this content is, my question is if you are looking for a high end phone anyway, why wouldn't you want this great functionality?

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JanSt / MOD  Jun. 28, 2011 at 21:46

There is no point imho.
Wait, yes, 1: basically all highend Androids are very similar.
Manufacturers trying to stand out can only do so much within Google's straightjacket...oops, I meant Open Platform.
3D is a way to appear innovative without actually adding functionality beyond some eyestrain and dizzy-doodle...
I'm sure someone will correct my luddites ass in the following comment. :p

blizzard7  Jun. 28, 2011 at 22:03

Nope that's a fair comment. Very little differentiation at the top. That said, I don't think I've heard of a 3D game for any phone? :3

Also even on Androids, the 3D is NOT in the menus. It is restricted solely to:
1) Photos and videos the user takes
2) Select videos on YouTube and providers like HTC Watch

Stelph  Sep. 7, 2011 at 13:28

Actually I believe in the LG Optimus 3D there is a specific "3D" menu where everything 3D can be accessed (videos, games etc) and they are releasing some kind of program that can 3D-erise other games for you as well

As to what is the point, well its just another feature for your phone, personally I think its quite a neat feature if youre someone who enjoys taking and playing with videos (create your own 3D videos to really show off the 3D effect) plus it gives you something cheap to do with that big 3D LCD Tv you're probably going to have to buy when you next upgrade your TV.

socialjeebus  Sep. 7, 2011 at 14:36

3D is a waste of time, complete gimmick.

smileyadam  Sep. 7, 2011 at 14:41

I have the EVO 3d and have to say that for me the point is three fold, producing 3d media, sharing 3d media and enjoying 3d entertainment. Compared to the other products on the market these phones offer a low cost way to take 3d pictures and movies, and more importantly a screen large enough to view and share them in a convenient way. The effect is impressive and almost looks like looking into a live window on whatever is pictured. There is also a growing pool of 3d games and movies which are compatible and particularly with the EVO the 3d is employed in a sensible way, used with key features and coupled to a product that is a great smartphone in its own right.

Given how much fun this content is, my question is if you are looking for a high end phone anyway, why wouldn't you want this great functionality?

shadders139  Sep. 9, 2011 at 03:05

smileyadam, i have the evo 3d and completely agree with you. i really don't get why people are so close minded about 3d, but all new technology has it's naysayers before it eventually becomes standard

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 9, 2011 at 07:52

Nah,
if you enjoy 3D, that is great. Seriously.
The problem I see is that Android really has some growing up to do.
It is a good OS, but I'm not in favour of adding battery draining features when there is still no Android phone that lasts a full 24 hrs without disabling features that define the OS.
The iPhones used to be ridiculed for battery performance, and yet every Android device I tried this year got its butt kicked by the iPhone 4 (Htc Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S II to name but 2) in terms of battery life.

Another issue is the poor antenna performance.
Even the hardened SGSII fans here admit that it sucks reception-wise - for gsm and wifi. Same goes for the Sensation or the Desire HD.
My colleague's iPad gets great 3G where my HD and SGSII struggled between edge and 2 bars of 2G...

Other birthdefects include a below par email client - easy setup and fast? Yes. Featurewise it has nothing on Symbian, BB OS or even winmo 6.1...

They are just examples, but I guess they explain the "rift"... for many users those things don't matter because great screens, fast processors etc etc really rock. Others - maybe those who used smartphones before it was fashionable - would like a polished mature OS rather than something that performs wearing a shiny costumes draped over a skinny body without much substance.

Of course, all past consumer products have proven that neither party will get its perfect product.
So, personal preference rules.
Some like 3D taskswitchers, otber would like REAL multitasking... etc etc...
It really doesnt matter what others think if you REALLY like it. Doesn't mean you're right. Doesn't mean they are wrong.
Except when I'm right, of course :p there is still no Android phone that lasts a full 24 hrs without disabling features that define the OS.
The iPhones used to be ridiculed for battery performance, and yet every Android device I tried this year got its butt kicked by the iPhone 4 (Htc Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S II to name but 2) in terms of battery life.

Another issue is the poor antenna performance.
Even the hardened SGSII fans here admit that it sucks reception-wise - for gsm and wifi. Same goes for the Sensation or the Desire HD.
My colleague's iPad gets great 3G where my HD and SGSII struggled between edge and 2 bars of 2G...

Other birthdefects include a below par email client - easy setup and fast? Yes. Featurewise it has nothing on Symbian, BB OS or even winmo 6.1...

They are just examples, but I guess they explain the "rift"... for many users those things don't matter because great screens, fast processors etc etc really rock. Others - maybe those who used smartphones before it was fashionable - would like a polished mature OS rather than something that performs wearing a shiny costumes draped over a skinny body without much substance.

Of course, all past consumer products have proven that neither party will get its perfect product.
So, personal preference rules.
Some like 3D taskswitchers, otber would like REAL multitasking... etc etc...
It really doesnt matter what others think if you REALLY like it. Doesn't mean you're right. Doesn't mean they are wrong.
Except when I'm right, of course :p

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 9, 2011 at 07:55

apologies...AGAIN...THAT bug is getting annoying.
And it's not just opera mini o_O

Treab  Sep. 11, 2011 at 16:45

"My colleague's iPad gets great 3G where my HD and SGSII struggled between edge and 2 bars of 2G..."

cause thats a fair comparison isnt it... an ipad is much bigger with a bigger antenna but if your friend uses that as a phone then i would love to see that for giggles... compare the sgs2 with the iphone 4 but we know that has its own connection issues...

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 16:54

Treab, I love my SGS2 (ask Jan, I mention it all the time ;)), but wi-fi on it is TERRIBLE, I can't comment on signal, but only because where I live T-Mobile's signal is ridiculously strong. I'm sure if I were to move house, my signal would be just as bad as the Wi-Fi. If you want a fair comparison, my old Desire was at least 100% better for getting a Wi-Fi signal than my S2.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 17:07

Treab,
I can confirm that the iPhone 4 (deathgrip aside) has much better reception than the SGS2. I mentioned the iPad cause I had just been shown how well it works when I wrote that comment.
I can also confirm that my C7, E7, Acer Liquid, N900, Desire HD(even that one) all performed better in said location.

Google, and you will find plenty of complaints and nags about the Galaxy's antenna performance. (e.g. http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/htc-responds-to-sensation-death-grip-claims-963858 )

I said it in more than one place: The SGS2 is a great phone, certainly the best Android, and in many ways better than the iPhone etc...
But antennawise it's definitely below par.

And since you mention antenna size (lol)- explain the pathetic antenna of the first Galaxy Tab, even compared to the Galaxy S2?
Size of the device determines reception? Is that so?

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 17:26

Treab, Jan's right, Google "SGS2 Antenna Problems", you'll find a whole host of unhappy SGS2 owners.

Also the size of a device has little, (maybe nothing nowadays?), to do with it's wireless performance. For example, my Samsung N150+ 10.1" Netbook outperforms my Acer 5741A 15.6" Laptop, in every Wi-Fi situation they've ever been in. The quality of the wireless adapter has far more to do with Wi-Fi reception than the size of the device itself.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 18:49

yep.
Worth remembering that Consumer Report - the US org that refused to "recommend" the iphone 4 because of the "deathgrip" - actually praised the antenna performance overall ;) Just hold it the right way.
As to size, by far the best performer in my 'collection' is my old E50 followed by an older 1110. Both about half the size of the SGS2 LOLyep.
Worth remembering that Consumer Report - the US org that refused to "recommend" the iphone 4 because of the "deathgrip" - actually praised the antenna performance overall ;) Just hold it the right way.
As to size, by far the best performer in my 'collection' is my old E50 followed by an older 1110. Both about half the size of the SGS2 LOL

Treab  Sep. 11, 2011 at 19:12

tbh i only posted that because of the above "Manufacturers trying to stand out can only do so much within Google's straightjacket...oops, I meant Open Platform." :P i just couldnt be bothered with a fan war ;)

and it does seem endemic on modern phones with top specs maybe thats due to the amount of room the internal hardware needs before they can add the wifi and 3g antennas

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 19:57

hahaha
Agreed ;)

And a nice curve back to the actual topic :D

Would have been strikes for all of us :p

Treab  Sep. 11, 2011 at 20:08

or a possible demotion for you :P

Treab  Sep. 11, 2011 at 20:08

or a possible demotion for you :P

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 20:31

Demote to what? lol :p

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 20:32

Jan you might get fired, joining in with this despicable off topic conversation hehe ;). Just so I fell I've added something, 3D is totally pointless on phones, it adds bulk and kills the battery. As a final nail in the coffin there's barely any 3D content. That's my, on topic, two cents.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 20:33

Jan, I think he means, be stripped of your moderator title :p.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 20:36

Jan, I think he means, be stripped of your moderator title :p.

Treab  Sep. 11, 2011 at 21:04

one of the smelly masses :P the powerless :P the ugly wait a minute why am i describing jan....

Guan  Sep. 12, 2011 at 15:15

I took the sim out of my LG 3D 12 days and 4 hours ago when it was fully charged, used it a hand full of times during the past week (probably just over 1 hour in total), for mainly watching 3D videos. The stock battery is now down to 18%.
To all 3D nay sayers, check out some decent side-by-side vids on the LG 3D before passing judgement!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149650

Though for me personally, the whole point of having a 3D phone is to future proof your family Videos and Pictures. Fact: 3D Tech will continue to mature, hence, isn't it better to have your content in a format that when your kids grow up you can get the most out of?

On a side note, I get better reception on the LG than my SGS2 and my Quadrant score is always above 3000.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179352&highlight=quadrant+scores

Guan  Sep. 12, 2011 at 15:23

Oh, and if your still not convinced about the need for 3D on a phone, one word answer :p:


Porn!

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2011 at 15:32

Future-proof? P*rn aside - PS3 can't play PS2...none of my betamax tapes work. In Ireland not a single Bluray disk was rented yesterday.. And Lego stopped making curved "blocks", so my kids prolly can't build the leaning tower of PISA...

(n.b. I made up my kids and I'm not sure about the curvy blocks. But yes, sadly, p*rn will probably survive the Mayan Calendar)

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