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What is the point of this site?

I thought I'd look at this place now it's been going a few weeks, and MWC is on at the moment. I guess I could say that I'm disappointed. I don't get what it's for? There's little intelligent coverage of mobile related stuff, and the rest is basic 'How do I?' posts, which has it's use, but it's hardly the best layout to serve that.
I guess I'll continue to use HUKD and then other mobile sites/forums, as I can't work out what this one offers.

Most Useful Answer normal  Feb. 13, 2011 at 21:38

I do find this blog style thing a bit weird, but then again, I'm not a big facebook or blog kind of person despite greater prevailing wisdom.8)

Suggestions.
1. It's a bit messy. Having Phones/Network/OS is very logical, but it does become very difficult to track after that. Ideally you need to split it into different network/phone manufacturers/OS's so that it's easier to go to find / discuss information most relevant to what you're looking for. There's no harm in having the constant blog stream going, for those who want to read it that way, but having that alone doesn't make it very conducive to long term sustainability and a natural place to come to for information/help/discussion. Not very Web 2.0 of me. Sorry.
2. Discussion. Now what if I don't want to talk about a particular phone/OS/network? It's more of a 'What's the future going to be like' chat. Where would I put it? Staff can post up stuff on the blog to start chats, but what about users? As an additional point, going into specific phone/network/OS streams is good for particular things such as discussing experience/getting help (in reality, that's what most sub-forums develop into), but if you want to gain a general understanding of what's going on in the mobile world, you need a different stream, which doesn't rely solely upon staff writers.
3. Content is King. I don't mean to sound rude, but the stuff written so far is not exactly insightful is it? It's neither broad and shallow, or deep and narrow. The Nokia and Microsoft story is a great example of this. So far, coverage of even very meaty stories has been very poor. Ok. It's a new place, and it's not Engadget/Gizmodo/BGR etc yet, but it's simply poor by any standard. I'm more likely to get insight from a Sunday Times feature. Sorry if I've hurt anyone's feelings.

I hope it helps. On the plus side, I like the logo and the colour scheme!

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JanSt / MOD  Feb. 13, 2011 at 20:52

Hi, normal.

I'm sure your point is appreciated. How about suggestions? :)
As you can see in the top-right corner of the frontpage, mobot is still mo-beta - changes are made almost daily, features are added for users and visitors, and the site will surely benefit from constructive criticism. You are, so-to-speak, an early adopter - what would you like to see more or less of?
As to MWC: the main events take off tonight, there are two mobot writers in Barcelona.
I visit many different mobile sites - from mod forums like XDA to more mainstream sites such as softpedia etc...
I don't 'get' facebook and yet half a billion + disagree with me.

Anyway... what would you add?

Cloaked  Feb. 13, 2011 at 21:06

Yeah, man, check out the mighty boygeniusreport in 2006 http://web.archive.org/web/20061105004655/http://www.boygeniusreport.com/ (you can use the 'wayback-machine' to see websites in the past)... 2 years ago a guy told me "twitter will be gone in a few months"! hehehe - he's a web-designer, too. Mobot is a community, and I like to pop in. And I'm one of the daft how-do-I question-askers :p

normal  Feb. 13, 2011 at 21:38

I do find this blog style thing a bit weird, but then again, I'm not a big facebook or blog kind of person despite greater prevailing wisdom.8)

Suggestions.
1. It's a bit messy. Having Phones/Network/OS is very logical, but it does become very difficult to track after that. Ideally you need to split it into different network/phone manufacturers/OS's so that it's easier to go to find / discuss information most relevant to what you're looking for. There's no harm in having the constant blog stream going, for those who want to read it that way, but having that alone doesn't make it very conducive to long term sustainability and a natural place to come to for information/help/discussion. Not very Web 2.0 of me. Sorry.
2. Discussion. Now what if I don't want to talk about a particular phone/OS/network? It's more of a 'What's the future going to be like' chat. Where would I put it? Staff can post up stuff on the blog to start chats, but what about users? As an additional point, going into specific phone/network/OS streams is good for particular things such as discussing experience/getting help (in reality, that's what most sub-forums develop into), but if you want to gain a general understanding of what's going on in the mobile world, you need a different stream, which doesn't rely solely upon staff writers.
3. Content is King. I don't mean to sound rude, but the stuff written so far is not exactly insightful is it? It's neither broad and shallow, or deep and narrow. The Nokia and Microsoft story is a great example of this. So far, coverage of even very meaty stories has been very poor. Ok. It's a new place, and it's not Engadget/Gizmodo/BGR etc yet, but it's simply poor by any standard. I'm more likely to get insight from a Sunday Times feature. Sorry if I've hurt anyone's feelings.

I hope it helps. On the plus side, I like the logo and the colour scheme!

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 13, 2011 at 22:16

Thanks, normal,
some interesting points ;)

normal  Feb. 13, 2011 at 23:22

You're welcome. If you ever need to test ideas out, or need to send an extra body to cover stuff at major event, I'm always happy to help! :p:

normal  Feb. 13, 2011 at 23:23

ehm. Two more suggestions.
1. An edit function for your own posts would be handy.
2. Did a search for meego, and it dug up nothing. I know it does get a mention on the site.

emmajk42 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2011 at 08:43

Having Phones/Network/OS is very logical, but it does become very difficult to track after that. Ideally you need to split it into different network/phone manufacturers/OS's so that it's easier to go to find / discuss information most relevant to what you're looking for. >>>>>

It's already laid out like this. Click "browse all" on the right hand side under each topic. The landing page of each simply shows the latest discussions.

Now what if I don't want to talk about a particular phone/OS/network? It's more of a 'What's the future going to be like' chat. Where would I put it? >>>>

You can start a topic under phones, networks or OS....

1. An edit function for your own posts would be handy. >>>>

Already requested...

2. Did a search for meego, and it dug up nothing. I know it does get a mention on the site. >>>>

That seems to be a bug and exactly why we have the beta label on the site.

emmajk42 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2011 at 16:54

Search issue now fixed - thank you for letting us know about it :)

e.g. http://www.mobot.net/search?search=meego

normal  Feb. 14, 2011 at 18:03

It's already laid out like this. Click "browse all" on the right hand side under each topic. The landing page of each simply shows the latest discussions.
Great! Any chance of making that a bit more prominent/easier to find?

You can start a topic under phones, networks or OS.... I think you're missing the point a bit. I tend to find a 'General' mobile related chit chat place a great place to pick up on what's going on in the Mobile World. Are you suggesting, that if I wanted to find out what's been going on during the past few days at MWC, I should look at individual bits and pieces in phones/OS/networks? A general MWC thread would be far easier, but it wouldn't have a home, at present. How about Facebook's problem with presenting itself to mobile platforms (their biggest issue according to them), or OFCOM's selling of the spectrum?........
Search issue now fixed - thank you for letting us know about it
Thanks!

Content. I just want to do a comparison: Covering the launch of the same handset:
http://www.mobot.net/lg-takes-dimension-mwc-2011-16169#more-16169
and
http://www.whatmobile.net/2011/02/hands-on-lg-optimus-3d/
One adds value, and is worth reading. The other tells me little, beyond what LG's PR want to tell me.

normal  Feb. 14, 2011 at 18:03

It's already laid out like this. Click "browse all" on the right hand side under each topic. The landing page of each simply shows the latest discussions.
Great! Any chance of making that a bit more prominent/easier to find?

You can start a topic under phones, networks or OS.... I think you're missing the point a bit. I tend to find a 'General' mobile related chit chat place a great place to pick up on what's going on in the Mobile World. Are you suggesting, that if I wanted to find out what's been going on during the past few days at MWC, I should look at individual bits and pieces in phones/OS/networks? A general MWC thread would be far easier, but it wouldn't have a home, at present. How about Facebook's problem with presenting itself to mobile platforms (their biggest issue according to them), or OFCOM's selling of the spectrum?........
Search issue now fixed - thank you for letting us know about it
Thanks!

Content. I just want to do a comparison: Covering the launch of the same handset:
http://www.mobot.net/lg-takes-dimension-mwc-2011-16169#more-16169
and
http://www.whatmobile.net/2011/02/hands-on-lg-optimus-3d/
One adds value, and is worth reading. The other tells me little, beyond what LG's PR want to tell me.

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 14, 2011 at 18:13

I think the Devs are in the process of setting up a shortcut to all MWC-related articles (top-right corner of frontpage). That way you won't have to scroll through games reviews and how-to questions to get the gist of the MWC.

emmajk42 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2011 at 18:27

Thanks for your comments Normal.

normal  Feb. 14, 2011 at 20:21

Thanks.
I personally think that a mobile site/forum needs several different layers to make a complete ecosystem so that more 'experienced/knowledgable/generally interested' members can chew the fat, so that when others who just want a basic quick answer pop in, there's a good knowledge base of people hanging around who can help out. If there's not enough depth available for the 'helpers', they won't tend to hang around to help the 'askers' and its hard to develop a long term community.

It's very different from HUKD in that aspect. Although there are many 'senior' contributors on there, the site is not solely reliant on them, as anyone can stumble upon a hot deal and post it up. I'm may be overplaying the significance of 'senior' contributors on a mobile forum, but I hope I'm getting what I mean across.

Another more 'in' idea might be to put links in so that articles/posts could be tweeted etc. for those into that kind of thing. Not me, but I believe some people like that kind of stuff.

emmajk42 / MOD  Feb. 14, 2011 at 20:52

Yeah, we will have those kind of sharing functions eventually. As I said, we're only a new site, still in beta, and there's still lots of growing to do :) But I'd like to think there's potential to be a really great community here too.

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