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When you restore a phone, is the data gone for good, or could someone recover it?

When you restore a phone, is the data gone for good, or could someone recover it?

Most Useful Answer matt101101  Jan. 18, 2013 at 18:30

Theoretically the data could be recovered, practically no one's likely to bother (unless you're an international spy, or something...).

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JanSt / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 17:39

Someone could recover it, of course. You'd need to overwrite it a few times, douse it in Domestos etc....

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 18:30

Theoretically the data could be recovered, practically no one's likely to bother (unless you're an international spy, or something...).

JanSt / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 18:36

Well, asking that question probably put him on the FBI's sh*tlist, which means now he should be worried. Very very very very very worrrrrrrrrried.

AhmadCentral  Jan. 18, 2013 at 19:50

That awkward moment when Matt has the same avatar as Jan and you think Jan has gone crazy and is replying to himself...

JanSt / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 20:18

it happens :D

Pondlife  Jan. 18, 2013 at 20:28

You only think Jan has gone crazy?

AhmadCentral  Jan. 18, 2013 at 20:41

Well i presumed Matt had gone crazy a while back. I just didn't want to say anything.. oO

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 21:37

I was born crazy, as far as I'm aware :p.

Treab  Jan. 18, 2013 at 21:41

Hes a lawyer... those lot arent crazy... they are far worse

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 22:14

Hes a lawyer... those lot arent crazy... they are far worse
How are the night shifts ;)?

Treab  Jan. 18, 2013 at 22:16

Hes a lawyer... those lot arent crazy... they are far worse
How are the night shifts ;)?


im not on nights ;) i was supposed to be on an early this morning... thank you snow :D

how is defending the crooks cheats and the scum of the earth... Yes i mean the Bankers.

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 22:57

Hes a lawyer... those lot arent crazy... they are far worse
How are the night shifts ;)?


im not on nights ;) i was supposed to be on an early this morning... thank you snow :D

how is defending the crooks cheats and the scum of the earth... Yes i mean the Bankers.

Not too snowy here, so defending the scum of the earth (not that I work in that field, criminal defence sounds bloody tedious to me) is going well, thanks :p.

How much snow have you got down your way?

Treab  Jan. 18, 2013 at 23:00

Hes a lawyer... those lot arent crazy... they are far worse
How are the night shifts ;)?


im not on nights ;) i was supposed to be on an early this morning... thank you snow :D

how is defending the crooks cheats and the scum of the earth... Yes i mean the Bankers.

Not too snowy here, so defending the scum of the earth (not that I work in that field, criminal defence sounds bloody tedious to me) is going well, thanks :p.

How much snow have you got down your way?



he had about 3 inches but my scooter couldn't be driven and the buses cancelled this am so couldn't get to placement :D

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 18, 2013 at 23:35

Hes a lawyer... those lot arent crazy... they are far worse
How are the night shifts ;)?


im not on nights ;) i was supposed to be on an early this morning... thank you snow :D

how is defending the crooks cheats and the scum of the earth... Yes i mean the Bankers.

Not too snowy here, so defending the scum of the earth (not that I work in that field, criminal defence sounds bloody tedious to me) is going well, thanks :p.

How much snow have you got down your way?



he had about 3 inches but my scooter couldn't be driven and the buses cancelled this am so couldn't get to placement :D

Ahh, we've had about the same here, but I don't use a moped or the bus to get to work. Quattro ftw...though I guess you got a day off and I didn't, maybe 4WD has its disadvantages haha :D.

It's still snowing here, but I'm not convinced it's getting any deeper.

Treab  Jan. 18, 2013 at 23:42

stopped snowing but its all ice... its worrying tbh as i still have placement in the morning.

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 19, 2013 at 00:23

stopped snowing but its all ice... its worrying tbh as i still have placement in the morning.
If the buses are running, get the bus. I wouldn't recommend going out on the ice with your scooter though, you're asking to end up dead. My advice; if it's icy and the buses aren't running, have a repeat performance of today.

I drove the Mrs' front wheel drive car earlier (Fiesta), that was scary enough and that's running on 6 day old RainSport 2 tyres. I dread to think what its old, worn out Ventus S1 Evos would have been like, and I don't even want to consider a scooter haha :p.

Pondlife  Jan. 19, 2013 at 01:09

He should know what happens to scooter riders in these conditions as they come in to his work via ambulance...

My new tyres were touch more slippery than old ones for a couple of weeks when I got them, premium contact 2 I think. So old ones could have been better..

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 19, 2013 at 01:28

He should know what happens to scooter riders in these conditions as they come in to his work via ambulance...

My new tyres were touch more slippery than old ones for a couple of weeks when I got them, premium contact 2 I think. So old ones could have been better..

The old ones were basically bald, I'm shocked they passed the MOT. I'm pretty sure if it hadn't have been an independent garage, the car would have failed on both front tyres desperately needing to be changed. They used to slip at the slightest hint of rain, I wouldn't fancy them at all in the snow, the new ones are much better (though I can't say how they are on a dry or wet road, only snow/ice).

They were pretty cheap too, £130 for 2 tyres including fitting. From the reviews I read before I decided she should have them, they are very good wet road tyres with no real compromise for dry weather driving, they so seem to wear a little faster, though. Saying that she did manage 30k miles from the Hankooks, so the car will likely be sold on before these need replacing, faster wear than the Hankooks or not.

Also, Treab works with mental health patients, not in A&E, AFAIK.

Treab  Jan. 19, 2013 at 01:31

He should know what happens to scooter riders in these conditions as they come in to his work via ambulance...

My new tyres were touch more slippery than old ones for a couple of weeks when I got them, premium contact 2 I think. So old ones could have been better..

The old ones were basically bald, I'm shocked they passed the MOT. I'm pretty sure if it hadn't have been an independent garage, the car would have failed on both front tyres desperately needing to be changed. They used to slip at the slightest hint of rain, I wouldn't fancy them at all in the snow, the new ones are much better (though I can't say how they are on a dry or wet road, only snow/ice).

They were pretty cheap too, £130 for 2 tyres including fitting. From the reviews I read before I decided she should have them, they are very good wet road tyres with no real compromise for dry weather driving, they so seem to wear a little faster, though. Saying that she did manage 30k miles from the Hankooks, so the car will likely be sold on before these need replacing, faster wear than the Hankooks or not.

Also, Treab works with mental health patients, not in A&E, AFAIK.


Well its decided im not going in :D Just checked the local bus website (who are updating their info tomorrow around 7am which is too late) and the bus i need is suspended as of now so im just going to ring in the morning as im not risking my life when i dont even get paid for this...

p.s. the classic joke by doctors...

it was a wet night and a doctor went to see mrs smith a patient in for cataract surgery.

Doctor: im sorry mrs smith (looking out the window) we don't have any corneas which we can transplant tonight... but looking at the weather it won't be long now...

Moral of the story don't ride a motorbike ;)

Pondlife  Jan. 19, 2013 at 12:07

Yeah saw that joke on QI.
Buses seem to get stopped a lot easier now than when they were public sector, or is it shockingly bad where you are Treab.

Yeah those were one of the tyres I'd picked out to look for when buying mine but couldn't find anywhere stocking them at the time.

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 19, 2013 at 12:23

Yeah saw that joke on QI.
Buses seem to get stopped a lot easier now than when they were public sector, or is it shockingly bad where you are Treab.

Yeah those were one of the tyres I'd picked out to look for when buying mine but couldn't find anywhere stocking them at the time.

I've seen a variation on the joke on House (the TV program). I haven't noticed any buses where I live, so I guess they're not running and it's not that bad here. As long as you're careful it's easy enough to drive, especially on the gritted, main roads which the buses use.

I was lucky, the first place I rang (good old Big City Tyres in Nottingham, a bit of free advertising for them there) had the ones I wanted in stock and they fitted them the same day. I don't trust the wife to pick decent tyres, she'd either go for the most expensive and get ripped off, or go for the cheapest and end up sliding into a ditch at the first sign of rain :p.

I don't need to do them, but out of curiosity I've just looked how much 4 new tyres for my car would be... The cheapest (read: worst) Kwik-Fit can do them for is £1025 oO!! I dread to think what Audi would charge to have it done by them.

Pondlife  Jan. 19, 2013 at 12:44

Guess it depends on where the bus drivers live too, maybe they can't get to work like Treab. Not an issue round here but was told buses were getting stuck on hills back home on Tuesday. Not been near bus route to see if they are running here today but they ought to be.

That was handy then.

No surprise really, but do think the prices for larger tyres seem to be rather a con. Hard to imagine them needing 8 times the materials.. Whilst pondering wearing in times on tyres one person said Audi say about 500km which sounds mad.

matt101101 / MOD  Jan. 19, 2013 at 13:15

Guess it depends on where the bus drivers live too, maybe they can't get to work like Treab. Not an issue round here but was told buses were getting stuck on hills back home on Tuesday. Not been near bus route to see if they are running here today but they ought to be.

That was handy then.

No surprise really, but do think the prices for larger tyres seem to be rather a con. Hard to imagine them needing 8 times the materials.. Whilst pondering wearing in times on tyres one person said Audi say about 500km which sounds mad.

I hadn't thought of that, I guess no bus drivers would equal no buses.

Larger tyres are an absolute rip off, I assume the theory is that they don't sell as many so they don't benefit from the same economy of scale that smaller, more common tyres do.

I'm looking at getting a Fiat Panda 100HP as a weekend toy (great fun, 40mpg and no licence losing speeds), and that takes 195/45R15 tyres, which cost loads more than 195/50R15 tyres, due to the fact they're a lot less common (saying that, you can fit the 100HP with 195/50R15s if you so desire, they'll work fine and help to calm the bone shaking ride).

500kms to wear in a set of tyres? Surely not, I bought my car used and I've never replaced the tyres, but I can't imagine it's take that long to wear them in.

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