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Samsung IS Android, or is it? Not?

http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/chartgo-2.png?w=500&h=400

Samsung owns Android, captures 95% of global Android smartphone profits

Globally, Android smartphones accounted for 43 percent of the overall smartphone industry’s profits, the report says. Those profits reached $12.5 billion in just the first quarter of 2013. And due to an ultra-efficient supply chain, “sleek products,” and successful marketing strategies, Samsung has captured almost all of that 43 percent, or $5.1 billion.

In other words: Unless you're Samsung, Android is not all that much, is it? :p
Maybe Nokia went the right route? Maybe I'm bored by Google I/O?

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matt101101 / MOD  May. 15, 2013 at 21:11

I'll bite...


Unless you're Samsung, Android is not all that much, is it?
Your point is? I didn't think that there was any doubt among those who'd turned their mind to it that Samsung are clearly the dominant Android device manufacturer and profiter. Prior to the HTC One, there has been very little to challenge Samsung's devices for a fair few years now. I guess the Nexus 4 was nice, but only because it was cheap. If it had have cost £500, it would have been a terrible device. The screen wasn't great, the camera was crap and the battery life was dire.


Maybe Nokia went the right route?
'Cos those Lumias are flying off the shelves...and WP totally doesn't look like a 3 year old designed it out of duplo.

As for Google I/O being boring, yeah, it kinda is tbh...

JanSt / MOD  May. 15, 2013 at 21:24

Yeah, but Elop mostly spends M$'s money these days :p

Seriously, though... The Samsung bit isn't all that surprising. But that LG makes almost as much profit as all "others" combined :O

matt101101 / MOD  May. 15, 2013 at 21:49

Yeah, but Elop mostly spends M$'s money these days :p

Seriously, though... The Samsung bit isn't all that surprising. But that LG makes almost as much profit as all "others" combined :O

Nokia are clearly only still afloat thanks to M$, imagine what Samsung's profit forecast would be if they announced they were intending to rely purely on their WP devices hahahaha.

The LG bit is surprising, I didn't realise they sold more devices than HTC.

dcx_badass  May. 15, 2013 at 22:08

Bit different for UK though, Sony is number 2 in Android sales here, then HTC, guess LG wouldn't even appear on ours.

spruceyb  May. 15, 2013 at 22:15

Yeah, but Elop mostly spends M$'s money these days :p

Seriously, though... The Samsung bit isn't all that surprising. But that LG makes almost as much profit as all "others" combined :O

Nokia are clearly only still afloat thanks to M$, imagine what Samsung's profit forecast would be if they announced they were intending to rely purely on their WP devices hahahaha.

The LG bit is surprising, I didn't realise they sold more devices than HTC.


LG have a good strategy, it's L Series is available in over 50 Markets had sold over 10,000,000 units by December last year, they too like Samsung also have a strong supply chain too.

LG profits are also bolstered by strong LTE offerings in South Korea, Japan and the United States

jliptoid  May. 15, 2013 at 22:25

Well, what we need is greater competitiveness within Android. I think the Motorola X Phone could help with this.

And as for Nokia, WP isn't a bad platform but putting all your eggs in one basket is a poor choice. Nokia had a history of open source software and could have easily ported their MeeGo and Symbian apps to Android at very little cost due to the presence of the cross-platform Qt framework that they supported.

matt101101 / MOD  May. 15, 2013 at 23:12

Yeah, but Elop mostly spends M$'s money these days :p

Seriously, though... The Samsung bit isn't all that surprising. But that LG makes almost as much profit as all "others" combined :O

Nokia are clearly only still afloat thanks to M$, imagine what Samsung's profit forecast would be if they announced they were intending to rely purely on their WP devices hahahaha.

The LG bit is surprising, I didn't realise they sold more devices than HTC.


LG have a good strategy, it's L Series is available in over 50 Markets had sold over 10,000,000 units by December last year, they too like Samsung also have a strong supply chain too.

LG profits are also bolstered by strong LTE offerings in South Korea, Japan and the United States

I wouldn't call it "good"; being 92.2% behind your next nearest competitor in terms of profit is hardly a fantastic achievement.

CTPAHHIK  May. 16, 2013 at 08:17

I'm assuming this is profit margins and has nothing to do with market share?
It doesn't look genuine that Samsung holds 95% market share.

BTW, is that Q1 of 2013 only?

JanSt / MOD  May. 16, 2013 at 08:53

I'm assuming this is profit margins and has nothing to do with market share?
It doesn't look genuine that Samsung holds 95% market share.

BTW, is that Q1 of 2013 only?


No, as per title: PROFITS!

Stelph  May. 16, 2013 at 09:34

I'm assuming this is profit margins and has nothing to do with market share?
It doesn't look genuine that Samsung holds 95% market share.

BTW, is that Q1 of 2013 only?


No, as per title: PROFITS!


Profits eh. obviously making phones out of plastic saves a lot of cost and increases the amount of profit :)

Out of curiosity, what profit Apple made on the iPhone in the same timeframe?

JanSt / MOD  May. 16, 2013 at 09:53

I'm assuming this is profit margins and has nothing to do with market share?
It doesn't look genuine that Samsung holds 95% market share.

BTW, is that Q1 of 2013 only?


No, as per title: PROFITS!


Profits eh. obviously making phones out of plastic saves a lot of cost and increases the amount of profit :)

Out of curiosity, what profit Apple made on the iPhone in the same timeframe?


Good question... I'll look into that

CTPAHHIK  May. 16, 2013 at 10:37

I would assume that Samsung has a higher margin due to the fact that all components are manufactured by them.
Screen, SoC, Flash Memory, RAM, etc. I don't know if radio/modem is done by Samsung.

Neither of us knows how much Samsung workers are getting paid. Last time I read about Samsung had their own work city with 55K workers that includes all necessary amenities for family life and transportation to work. All free of charge.

Stelph  May. 16, 2013 at 13:19

I'm assuming this is profit margins and has nothing to do with market share?
It doesn't look genuine that Samsung holds 95% market share.

BTW, is that Q1 of 2013 only?


No, as per title: PROFITS!


Profits eh. obviously making phones out of plastic saves a lot of cost and increases the amount of profit :)

Out of curiosity, what profit Apple made on the iPhone in the same timeframe?


Good question... I'll look into that


I wonder how its worked out as well, if its similar to how iFixit "cost" the iPhone each year (usually showing a profit of $300/400 a phone) times by number of sales or if its actual raw data from samsung

Better not be blinking stock release numbers...

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