Screen envy

I got my iPhone 4 a couple of months ago. It was my first touchscreen phone and I really loved the size of the screen - 3.5in. But then my partner got the HTC Desire HD - his screen was just a little bit bigger, but in real estate terms, it just looked noticably bigger than mine (4.3in).

Anyone else experience screen envy?

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Stelph  Jan. 21, 2011 at 12:44

Only until they try and put the phone back into their pocket.... :-)

Stormbringer2012  Jan. 26, 2011 at 07:47

And the battery life, you need it constantly plugged into mains :)

emmajk42 / MOD  Jan. 26, 2011 at 09:50

Yeah, his battery barely lasts a day.

JanSt / MOD  Jan. 26, 2011 at 11:10

lol My Desire HD is in repair currently, and I'm using a NOkia E71 - I keep checking the battery bar, cause that phone just goes on and on.

info52  Apr. 10, 2011 at 18:59

These battery issues can easily be avoided by switching off some of the battery-intensive functionality whilst still making the phone useful.

JanSt / MOD  Apr. 10, 2011 at 23:53

You are right, of course - and if your link wasn't to a Three network tips page, I would add, "disable 3G" - right behind the touchscreen as the biggest juice gobbler. But "easily avoided"???
But the criticism stands, cause a lot of those battery conservation strategies result in a phone that is no longer what you paid for.
Those features that we need to disable, are the features that to a large degree define Android - online-this, and sync-that, and yada yada...
Why not root the phone and uninstall the market, the email client and any other data-using app? Then lets set the screen brightness to 'barely visible'.
If before touchscreen mania Nokia or Motorola had released a phone and said, "to get more than 8 hours out of the battery, please disable wifi,3G usage to a minimum etc etc"... we would all have whiplashed necks from laughing so hard ;)

Also, add to that the fear of losing our phones and the malware scare - a lot of the so-called security apps now so hyped require that your GPS is always on (to locate your lost/stolen phone), 3G is recommended to be active, background sync has to be on for latest virus-definitions and malware updates to be downloaded ASAP... in other words: you have a secure phone with about 4 hour charge cycles, or you switch everything off to, essentially have a phone with half the advertised features.

I am exaggerating, of course. And I find a charge per day acceptable, but there's a huge discrepancy between OS development, apps publication etc, and battery standards.
And the poor battery performance of touchscreen smartphones is one of the main reasons why people move back to non-touchscreen devices, or at least a ts-phone with slightly better battery life.

Imagine Porsche sold cars with 300 bhp and 2 gallon fuel tanks, and then Jeremy Clarkson chimes in saying, 'It's not so bad - just always drive around at 50 mph and you'll make at least 20 miles!'???

info52  May. 3, 2011 at 20:36

Jan St,

Unfortunately, all smart phones suffer from poor battery life. That's just the way it is. A single day is about average for most smartphones.

I used to own a T-Mobile Pulse and now have a HTC Desire HD – the battery life is almost the same on both of them. My brother owns a iPhone 4 and his battery life is marginally better (although his reception is worse).

I've disabled wifi (when I'm not at home) and GPS, and have set background data polling to only once every 2 hours, and I still have all the power (well, most) of a smartphone.

The technological advancement of battery power seems to be outpaced by the demands of each iteration of smartphone hardware.

CTPAHHIK  May. 4, 2011 at 08:03

I have Desire HD, would that make me experience screen smugness? (_;)

Bigger screen is only good for reading emails and news, which is what I use my phone for most of the time. For everything else it's better off with higher resolution screen, which results in sharper picture. iPhone 4 has higher resolution screen, better display back-lighting and quality. Since most of the screen is empty white/black space iPhone screen is better for general use.

It all depends what you are using your phone for.

CTPAHHIK  May. 4, 2011 at 08:09

Stelph, I highly doubt your argument is valid for a girl. They never put anything in their pockets.

JanSt / MOD  May. 4, 2011 at 12:33

I tell you all one thing, we recently had a few unpleasant emergencies, and with a C7, hd2 and n900 flying around, I was most delighted by our £10 Nokia 1110 'backup' phone. When you really really need to juggle dozens of calls quickly, you will curse big swipy screens and pray** for a PHONE. ;) (**well, not pray-pray...)

Stelph  May. 17, 2011 at 11:50

"Unfortunately, all smart phones suffer from poor battery life. That's just the way it is"

It shoukdnt be though, it used to be that using a Tablet was a horrible experience, then the iPad and Android tablets came out, it used to be that smartphones had terrible cameras when compared to "dumbphones" then the Nokia N8 came out.

For too long now Manufacturers have been racing each other for the biggest screen and the thinnest phone, both times sacrificing any improvements in the batteries. We have now got to the stage where the screen cant get any bigger (IMO 3.5-3.7" is around the right size, any bigger it getting a bit rediculous) and theres no need to go any thinner (1cm thick is about right), now I just want the manufactures to push for how much battery life they can get out of their devices

JanSt / MOD  May. 17, 2011 at 13:45

Mostly agree, stelph.
I don't want any more 'innovations' and orwellian 'super plus good' screens until those devices can get through, at least, a day without having to disable half the features that define them.
I was 'just trying' a Nokia C7, and now I'm stuck with it. Because it runs almost 2 days with skype and twitter and 3 mail accounts 'always on'; the screen is fully legible in direct sunlight, and yes, it's ugly...
My Pre 2 is a close 2nd - making it through a day...
Not a single Android phone I used in the last 2 years (the htc tattoo aside) gave me more than 10 of REAL usage. And now they add NFC? Right...
Nah, you know things are bad when the N900 and iPhone 3g S are no longer the worst offenders ;)

cardamon  May. 18, 2011 at 15:21

I can't wait until the day when I'll be able to switch my phone screen into e-ink mode. Not only will I be able to enjoy reading almost as much as I do on my kindle, but that would also be a means of drastically extending battery life. I really love it that I only have to charge my kindle once a month!

emmajk42 / MOD  May. 18, 2011 at 16:58

I'm in a similar mindset about my Sony ebook reader and my iphone and my ipad... need a device that does it all, that's more like e-ink. I don't read books on the ipad, doesn't feel right with it.

JanSt / MOD  May. 18, 2011 at 18:29

good idea!!!!!
Have a Nintendo DS style dual screen. One 'normal' one e-ink.
NOW where's my superglue? O_o :p

Stelph  May. 19, 2011 at 10:34

@emmajk42 - Yes that is a good idea, or how about this, when someone develops a truely clear e-ink screen just layer the e-ink screen ontop of the LCD screen

EDIT : Damnit I thought I was on to a winning/patentable idea then, but Apple beat me to it

CTPAHHIK  May. 19, 2011 at 10:43

Looks like Apple is becoming a patent troll. It ridiculous that Apple, who does not have a clue about displays can get a patent for one (they are patenting an idea and not specific technology). I can understand Samsung getting a patent, but Apple? They can't design an antenna; oh well, that did not work, let's try beating Samsung/LG/Sony in screen technology.


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