Sony Ericsson Xperia Play doing just fine, thanks

Sony Ericsson Xperia Play doing just fine, thanksThe Sony Ericsson Xperia Play finally became reality more than half a year ago now, bringing PlayStation gaming to the mobile phone for the first time.

And it's been doing very nicely too, if you listen to Sony Ericsson head of market development Dominic Neil-Dwyer, who has played down the lack of a dual-core processor.

“This device, with the GPU integration, has been optimised for gameplay,” Neil-Dwyer told Eurogamer. “When we talk to the high-end publishers, they're very precious about the devices their games are going to be displayed upon, particularly those that are coming in from outside of mobile.

"In terms of what it can do within gaming, it's proven every time. And these are deep, technical people. They're all very impressed by the power of the device.

"When you go into things like dual core versus single core, what a lot of people don't understand or appreciate is the actual benchmarking and the ability of a device to do what they do, dual core doesn't mean it's faster.

"This is PlayStation Certified, and it's been proven by all of the discussions of a very technical nature we're having with publishers. It's not going to be outperformed that quickly."

Of course, as with the rest of the gaming hardware market, crunch time for the Xperia Play is really from now onwards until the end of the year, and Neil-Dwyer reckons the Android gaming handset is in good shape to deliver decent sales over the Christmas period.

“We've always viewed Q4, just because of the way the gaming industry works and the smartphone industry works, as a key period in time,” he added.

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matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 11, 2011 at 16:16

I smell bulls**t... ;)

I can tell you for a fact that the dual core processor in my Galaxy S2, would destroy the single core processor in the Xperia Play in every task I can think of, whether that's processing power based tasks, such as loading flash heavy websites, or GPU intensive tasks such as playing 3D games.

"When you go into things like dual core versus single core, what a lot of people don't understand or appreciate is the actual benchmarking and the ability of a device to do what they do, dual core doesn't mean it's faster."

"This is PlayStation Certified, and it's been proven by all of the discussions of a very technical nature we're having with publishers. It's not going to be outperformed that quickly."

This is all total crap, dual core phones are faster, even the worst dual core phone (probably the LG Optimus 2x), is way faster than any single core rival when it comes to intensive tasks such as...oh I don't know...maybe, gaming ;).

As for the best dual core devices, the Sensation and the SGS2, they absolutely destroy the Xperia play, no doubt about it. As for the Xperia play not being outperformed that quickly...sorry, but there were faster phones already on the market when the Play was launched.

The Xperia Play is a failure, and people know it. It's not selling, and sales figures speak for themselves.

Rant over :p.

sony2  Sep. 12, 2011 at 00:36

oh what would we know, we are not "deep, technical people" who have had "discussions of a very technical nature" .. *roll eyes*

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 12, 2011 at 11:35

Hardware wise Play is all right. It has same chipset as Desire HD and I don't see any gaming problems with it. If games do not support two cores it will not be of much use. It's difficult to code parallel processing and not everyone understands how threads work.
It was more of design and price mistake that killed Play. How is gaming support for it, btw? Any exclusives?

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2011 at 13:02

That is such typical Sony Ericsson PR Aspartame...sweet no substance, and harmful...
where are the sales figures? Where are the games download stats? Who cares about potential?
Sony's Betamax WAS better than VHS - I'm old enough. I KNOW. There were side by side comparisons, graphs etc... Betamax failed.
Just saying the Play's doing fine is not enough.
Sony E were also cocksure about the winmo Xperia - up to when they dumped it for Android. Though, of course, their WinMo Aspen singlehandedly revived winmo hahahauch typical Sony Ericsson PR Aspartame...sweet no substance, and harmful...
where are the sales figures? Where are the games download stats? Who cares about potential?
Sony's Betamax WAS better than VHS - I'm old enough. I KNOW. There were side by side comparisons, graphs etc... Betamax failed.
Just saying the Play's doing fine is not enough.
Sony E were also cocksure about the winmo Xperia - up to when they dumped it for Android. Though, of course, their WinMo Aspen singlehandedly revived winmo hahaha

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 12, 2011 at 15:49

Jan, you have to fix double posting.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2011 at 15:59

I'd love to. The problem is, it's totally random. Happens mostly, but not only with OM. Happens with all OSs, all networks... and I think ithappened to others also.

It's, sorry, a mobot thing. I don't have the problem anywhere else...

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 12, 2011 at 17:12

Jan, you're not alone, I keep getting double posts. They're separate as opposed to yours that are kinda all in one. Do you know, as a moderator, if this site was written from the ground up, using HTML or if whoever wrote it "cheated", and used Dreamweaver (or alternative)? It could be a problem with the site's code if it was written "by hand".

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 12, 2011 at 21:07

I have not experienced double posting yet. I only use standard android browser and random selection of PC browsers.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2011 at 21:17

Matt,
thanks, yeah, on "my" last site I was spoilt It was written for, well, me :p Emma and the devs are aware of the problem. So, lets hope ;)

Hasaan  Sep. 13, 2011 at 10:36

Xperia PLAY is the best gaming and multimedia smartphone, as opposed to Samsung Galaxy S2 (someone was raving above)

First, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247183

Xperia Play is way better than Tegra2 and SGS2 in actual performance and gaming. Benchmarks favour the latter ones but with all the optimizations and latest drivers, the real life performance of Xperia is better.

Xperia Play is faster in gaming, flash, web and all. It has AWESOMEEE speakers and sound. Gaming without good speakers and controls sucks!

Let's say SGS2 has a great GPU. But playing game on it would still suck because of the controllers! :P

Besides, Adreno is better than PowerVR and Tegra as i stated in my link.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 14, 2011 at 13:49

Adreno 205 is faster/better than the GeForce in the Tegra 2...hmm...then we get to the Mali 400 in the Exynos. The most powerful mobile processor/GPU combination available to date. Faster web browsing and flash playback...don't make me laugh, the Adreno 205 can't even handle 1080p video when paired with a 1ghz single core processor...great flash video performance there. As for faster web browsing, well I'm sorry to inform you, that's not true either. Dual core phone's stock web browser work with the multi threaded processors to optimism performance. Find me somewhere with a video of the S2, or any dual core device, being out performed by an Xperia Play.

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 14, 2011 at 17:17

Benchmarks disagree:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17

Looks like it's:
1. Mali
2. Adreno 220
3. SGX 540
4. Tegra 2
5. Adreno 205

Best at Flash video is nVidia. Last chart on the page.

Latest driver is a baseless claim - any manufacturer can make it and there is no way to verify that.

Very good camera on Xperia.
Don't think anyone cares about speaker - will be stuck with headphones.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 14, 2011 at 18:22

CTPAHHIK, it seems we have discovered a very misguided individual, in the form of Hasaan, on this whole "GPU/CPU power", topic. Your link made for some very interesting reading.

Firstly, I never realised the GPU in the iPad 2 was so incredibly powerful, it's a beast :p.

Secondly, as I thought, the Mali 400 paired with the Exynos 4210 is the most powerful smartphone SoC available to date.

Finally, I didn't realise how underpowered the Tegra2 really is, it's pretty weak compared to the Mali and the Adreno 220.

One, last note to Hasaan, drivers can be as good as they like but they can't be quantified or their efficiency proved. Also, really, you think some kind of "magic driver", makes the Xperia Play, anywhere near as powerful as something with twice (or more), times the processing/graphics power?

To quote the kids: "are you mad?"

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 14, 2011 at 18:41

Matt, Exynos 4210 is Cortex A9 + Mali 400 together. You make it sound like they are separate. Both are ARM products. I'm thinking Samsung's plant makes both and they decided to call it Exynos.

I was expcting that Mali and Adreno 220 is faster than Tegra 2. Tegra is quite outdated and first try from nVidia. I did not expect that SGX 540 is fater than Tegra.

What suprised me was how old and slow iPhone 4 is. HD2 is a much faster phone. Who would have thought that HTC had 9 month head start on iPhone and managed to deliver a better piece of hardware. Too bad WM6.5 is awful, if only Android was as matured as it is right now back then.

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 14, 2011 at 19:00

Sorry, my bad English :p. I know what the Exynos is, I did much research into it before I bought my Galaxy S2. People just seem to refer to the CPU as the Exynos and the GPU, as the Mali 400, I know it's technically wrong, but it makes life easier :p.

I'm not surprised the Mali is fastest, the SGS2 is butter smooth. I always thought Adreno made pretty crappy GPUs tbh, obviously I was wrong.

The iPhone 4 uses pretty old technology, it's Apple's special marketing strategy 90% of the time: old tech, pretty package, huge price.

I thought about buying an HD2 a few years ago, but WinMo 6.5 put me right off it haha :D. Little did I know the developer community that would form around it :p.

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 15, 2011 at 08:15

Back in the days when HD2 just appeared and I knew nothing of smart phones, sticking with my basic one with build in OS and being happy about it, search began for some better device with better functionality. I was contemplating HD2, but my friend advised me strongly against it as it had WM6.5. HTC Hero was another much cheaper option for a great phone. Was told that phone is very slow and it’s better that I invest in iPhone. This was coming from person with an iPhone (unlocked and jailbroken), Hero, some high end Nokia and older WM phone. In the end I did not get anything until picking up Desire HD year later. I was contemplating Galaxy S also, but reading about numerous hardware problems put me off. Little did I know that HD2 would be best hardware released with WP7 and Android ported + Hero easily moddable to increase speed and battery life. If hardware is really good and platform is open there will be people around to fix software bugs. 99.9% of end users don’t know that phone personalization starts with http://forum.xda-developers.com/ and not Settings->Personalize :p

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 15, 2011 at 12:21

matt101101 / MOD  Sep. 15, 2011 at 14:44

It's only the T-mobile US galaxy S2 that doesn't have the Exynos inside isn't it? Because of their 42mbps HSDPA+ network. That Qualcomm isn't a patch on the Exynos, unfortunately. Anyway, the Exynos will clock to 1.6ghz happily, it's an absolute beast at that speed.

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