Steve Jobs initiated patent talks with Samsung in summer 2010

+Lewis Curdie Sep. 30, 2011 at 11:00 More articles by Lewis Curdie

Steve Jobs initiated patent talks with Samsung in summer 2010 Apple and Samsung are smartphones deep in something stupid like 20+ disputes across the world, encompassing the UK, Australia, South Korea, Japan, Italy, The Netherlands, France, Germany and the US.

But it’s become apparent that one Steve Jobs (remember him?) initiated talks with Samsung in July 2010, before the lawyers were called in and everything went a bit mental.

That’s according to Richard Lutton, senior director and patent attorney at Apple, who was speaking at a court in Sydney. “Samsung is an important supplier with whom we have a deep relationship. We wanted to give them a chance to do the right thing,” explained Rich, who is no doubt very rich.

Apparently Steve was successful in getting a handful of Apple and Samsung big wigs together, but presumably they ended up throwing juice and yoghurt at each other, hence the incessant legal action we’re seeing now.

I reckon they should revisit Steve’s idea. Get a Subway platter in, some nice coffees, maybe some pick&mix, and just have a wee chat. Boo to lawyers.

via: Bloomberg

+1 to Apple.
Expecting Apple to win their scrolling patent and have Samsung be forced to remove it from their devices.
Blocking import and sale for existing products is too much, but blocking any new products after the ruling would be acceptable.

2010? How long does anything take.

Last edited by johnheslop, Sep. 30, 2011 at 13:15

Real question is why did these talks fail?

i mean if microsoft and samsung can agree a deal for its android phones why did apple fail? was the price too high? was the patient in question worthless? or did apple refuse to agree to pay for samsungs patient which is a universal requirement...

Sorry, no comment. I read "irritated" instead of "initiated"

+1 to apple? You must not have been following the news this week. Samsung merely need to make an alteration to the OS to negate the injunction.

Apple are going to have to pay substantitive and ongoing license fees if it wishes to continue to sell Iphones or Ipads anywhere.

Apple have been violtating Samsung's UMTS patents since the launch of the first Iphone. If they fail to reach an agreement There'll be no Iphones or Ipads for sale anywhere. Whilst Samsung are legally obliged to offer license terms it still means Apple are going to take a rather large and embarassing financial hit. Who would have thought a company as litigious as Apple would have made such a massive oversight.

From this article it seems like Samsung was asked nicely not to do something and they refused.
UMTS patents do not hold any value. They are under mandatory license and will be thrown out of court. Worst case one time fee for life.

They may be under mandatory license but Apple will still have to pay backdated fee or else face an injuction of it's own. Samsung hold the cards here. And this article is from Apple's own patent attorney (unlikely to be impartial nor make any damning admissions) who according to recent developments he and his colleagues have dropped the ball massively, unless he's of course he's new to the organisation (invoking patent suits whilst violating patents held by the party you are suing is madness).

but bear in mind ctpa that samsung have agreed deals with every other manufacturer except apple and the question becomes why? a major patent which is a requirement for every manufacturer to agree to is ignored by apple and they go after all of samsungs products for a basic 'swipe' application...

seems a ridiculously stupid situation.

There is someone smart at Apple looking at this. Apple will loose patent suite to Samsung no doubt. However, it foes not impact customer base as they don't care.
General patent enforced by court would impact all manufactures who would be required to pay it. price would be very cheap as everyone would have to pay it, so Samsung might as well give it out for free. You cannot have RFP here with different pricing on individual basis.

But if the agreement is inplace and agreed by all parties (which is was before apples rise to fame) apple cant try to renegotiate it. so samsung hold all the cards.

Does not look like there was an agreement. Apple would have licensed it already. It's same price ans rules for all. Unless this is something that only Apple uses and nobody else does.

well from the report i have seen its licensed to everyone else...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/sep/26/samsung-apple

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