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Will they have a supply of iPhone 4Ss in store on Friday?

Just wondering... since the wait time has gone up online, will they still have iPhone 4S units in store on Friday?

Most Useful Answer blizzard7  Oct. 11, 2011 at 21:56

@Treab
I don't think it's really a frenzy this time round, more a genuine want for people to upgrade who have been holding out with their 3Gs and 3GSs.

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Treab  Oct. 11, 2011 at 18:07

yes. its a minor upgrade they probably have thousands in stock but its a great way to gain publicity

the all new EYEPHONE

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 11, 2011 at 19:48

Yes, but they'll sell out damn quick, iFans will queue for days to get one, if past iPhone releases are anything to go by.

blizzard7  Oct. 11, 2011 at 19:54

Doesn't help that some people who have pre-ordered just want to buy it, then sell it on eBay for an extortionate price.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 11, 2011 at 20:00

True, there have been a lot of pre-orders, no doubt a fair few will be on eBay at massively inflated prices, if Apple struggle to fill the demand...

Treab  Oct. 11, 2011 at 20:01

anyone else think this is just apples way of increasing sales? in the same way futurama joked about it? you know the way fry asked if they had any eyephones left and their was thousands...

blizzard7  Oct. 11, 2011 at 20:37

How would holding back stock increase sales? Apple doesn't get anything from iPhones that end up on eBay apart from the initial sale and it's not like once it's put on eBay that counts as two separate sales.

Treab  Oct. 11, 2011 at 20:49

ahh but if you take the classic 'supply and demand' idea and hold back on supply increasing the inevitable frenzy than apple fanboys create whenever a new gospel from their religion is passed it could increase sales by making the feeling of 'want' stronger...

blizzard7  Oct. 11, 2011 at 21:56

@Treab
I don't think it's really a frenzy this time round, more a genuine want for people to upgrade who have been holding out with their 3Gs and 3GSs.

Treab  Oct. 11, 2011 at 22:04

i dunno. its already presold over a million. i would say thats a frenzy... and quite a few iphone 4 users are "upgrading" lol.

blizzard7  Oct. 11, 2011 at 22:41

Heh, yeah I agree with you on iPhone 4 users upgrading for little reason, but I do feel this release is coinciding with a lot of ending contracts and people who have been holding out (because they thought the iP4 was lackluster *gasp*).

CTPAHHIK  Oct. 11, 2011 at 22:47

Apple has very bad supply line. I guess with their attitude not everyone wants to deal with them. It could also be the case of wanting the best of hardware.
Back in the days when Razor hit Verizon actual release was delayed. Verizon was holding out for 1mil units on hand to a avoid shortages. That's 1mil for 60mil customers, imagine how insignificant that is compared to whole world.

Treab  Oct. 11, 2011 at 22:51

yeah but considering only 2 pieces of the hardware has changed since the iphone 4 surely the supply line should be a relatively non-existent issues.

Treab  Oct. 11, 2011 at 22:53

(because they thought the iP4 was lackluster *gasp*).

lackluster the i4 at least had more done to it than that pap lol. i just spotted on hukd a 12 month deal for 635 quid lol. a snip at just under £53 a month (335 upfront)...

CTPAHHIK  Oct. 11, 2011 at 22:57

I'm sure PoverVRs are hard to come by. Why would Sammy stick with Mali?

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 11, 2011 at 23:03

Well apart from the SGX543, which until friday no mobile phone has, the Mali 400 is the most powerful mobile GPU money can buy. Even after friday, the Exynos chip with the Mali 400 on it, is probably the best balance of CPU/GPU performance.

Treab  Oct. 11, 2011 at 23:03

they havent ;) the nexus prime seems to be using one with a 1.5ghz dual core.

and the tmobile us galaxy s2 uses the adreno 220.

and isnt the galaxy s2 the only one using the mali? so why would they change it when its in production.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 11, 2011 at 23:04

Yeah, the Mali 400 was developed for the SGS2 AFAIK. The SGS2 at MWC had a Tegra 2 chip, it wasn't until later on that they changed it for the Exynos & Mali 400.

CTPAHHIK  Oct. 12, 2011 at 09:51

Exynos does not have best balance. Same as in desktop/notebook space faster GPU is preferable to CPU. Dual 1Ghz of A5 is more than enough for a few years. Most likely SGX543 will hit a wall with new graphical apps.
Either Apple has exclusivity deal for SGX543, which is doubtful. Probably SGX543 has yield problems and cannot be made in huge quantities yet.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 12, 2011 at 12:36

Not necessarily, if you need to encrypt large files, you'll struggle with a beastly GPU and a crappy CPU...which I personally do quite a lot, it really depends what you're using your device for.

CTPAHHIK  Oct. 12, 2011 at 12:46

You should look into getting Intel CPU with AES instruction set. Does not require lots of processing power with right hardware.
Let me know if you need more info on that.

My point is that if phone will have a need to encrypt/decrypt functionality will be present in dedicated hardware.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 12, 2011 at 12:55

I meant encrypting files on my PC at work, not my phone. Confidential stuff has to be encrypted for our insurance purposes, we have xeon based servers (I think), that do the heavy work. My i5 laptop takes bloody ages to encrypt the same files haha :D.

As for my phone it mainly just does heavy web browsing and some 3D gaming when I'm bored, nothing the Exynos even breaks a sweat over :).

CTPAHHIK  Oct. 12, 2011 at 13:05

Intel made a few CPUs with special AES instructions for encryption/decryption. Don't know if they every picked up or if Xeon's were made. Might be worth researching.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/clarkdale-aes-ni-encryption,2538.html

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 12, 2011 at 13:12

The IT dept. only bought the Xeon based servers about a year ago, we were using workstation PCs to do the work but they were massively slow. I have no idea if the Xeons are actually designed for encryption but they're far faster than any other computer I've used. I'll have a look at that link, cheers mate :).

mrew42  Oct. 12, 2011 at 13:31

We've just got an HP DL980 server with 8 x 10 Xeon cores @ 2.40Ghz and 1TB RAM (soon to be upgraded to 2). It's just stupidly insanely fast.

matt101101 / MOD  Oct. 12, 2011 at 16:33

Wow, who do you work for, MI5 haha ;)? I'm no sure what the specs of our servers have but they're by FAR the most powerful computers I've ever used. Hopefully one day we'll have that kind of power available to us on home PCs :).

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