We've known for more than a year now that Symbian's days are officially numbered, but there's still surprisingly little consensus on what the number actually is, and how the once-dominant OS will see out its remaining days.
However, a Nokia Europe exec may just have cleared it up for us, and if you were holding back your best pick-up lines in anticipation of Carla and Donna arriving at the Symbian party, you're in for a disappointment: they're not coming.
That's what Nokia South Europe marketing manager Mathias Fiorin has said anyway, according to Italian Nokia blog Nokialino (translated). Talking informally at the Italian launch of the Nokia 808 PureView, the Nokia exec revealed that the Carla and Donna evolutions of Symbian had been cancelled, with the recent Belle FP1 update having inherited the essence of what Carla had been supposed to offer.
Nokia has probably been through more drama over the past 18 months than in its entire existence up to that point put together. It all started with Stephen Elop's seismic announcement 16 months ago that Nokia was ditching its involvement with MeeGo and phasing out Symbian to make room for a brave new world snuggled up to Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer's ample bosom.
We were shown a pretty graph showing how Symbian would still be kept ticking over with new hardware and software upgrades all the way to 2016, when it would finally be put to pasture.
Reality, however, has proved slightly different. Despite an aggressive policy of all-but-completely emptying the Symbian bag of tricks last year to keep the wheels turning while the opening Windows Phone devices were being developed. Symbian's sales plummeted, increasingly calling into question the wisdom of persisting with OS updates and support all the way to 2016.
The confusion hasn't exactly been helped by Nokia renaming Symbian Belle to Nokia Belle, and then out of nowhere producing its most innovative new handset in years in the 808 PureView, a new Symbian handset announced more than a year after Elop's statement of no confidence in the platform.
Given that Fiorin's comments were made at a social event, and come to us via the vagaries of Google Translate, there is still some chance that he's been misquoted, but it's hard to imagine how.
Ultimately it looks like the name change to Nokia Belle was made because Nokia knows it won't be changing it, with a pair of “feature packs” for the platform all that's now left of what was to be Carla and Donna.
It's all a bit disappointing, really.