Windows Phone, say hello to fragmentation

Windows Phone, say hello to fragmentationMicrosoft launched Windows Phone 7 promising to avoid the fragmentation issues that have plagued Android practically since day one – even if that meant locking down both the OS itself and the allowed hardware spec to the extent that it's hard to tell one WinPho device apart from another.

That didn't stop the rollout of the first WinPho update nearly a year ago now proving a total shambles, but we were willing to blame that on teething problems. But now there can no longer be any doubt: Windows Phone fragmentation is real, and it's about to get a whole lot worse.

That's not us talking here, it's renowed Microsoft blogger and expert Paul Thurrot, whose WinSupersite has revealed fresh details of the Windows Phone update road map for the rest of the year.

We've already heard a bit about the next update – Tango – and specifically that it's aimed at opening Windows Phone up to lower-end devices that have some of the platform's functionality disabled.

It stands to reason, then, that Mango and Tango will co-exist, but according to Thurrot devices running the more basic Tango won't be able to run all the apps in the Windows Marketplace, and in fact new apps will be certified for the platforms separately, with developers able to rule out their submissions from being tested on low-end Tango devices.

For example, Thurrot says that while Angry Birds will be available on both platforms, the equally addictive Plants vs Zombies won't. The issue of future updates – such as whether both Mango and Tango devices will be able to run the future Windows Phone 8 (Apollo) – isn't covered, but we're not exactly hopeful based on this evidence.

Microsoft hasn't exactly helped itself here with its silly naming policy, either. Just try saying “Tango” and “Mango”out loud more than a few times without getting irritated...

Via WMPowerUser

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JanSt / MOD  Feb. 13, 2012 at 11:53

Oh, I thought this was about Apollo - which, rumour has it, won't be coming to any current WP devices...


But anyone who believes WP was a remedy against fragmentation: hello. It's by that company who make Vista in 100 versions. Who not only have Windows 7 Basic, but also Windows 7 Starter... Who build entire Desktop Os around IE - the world's most bloated mal- and spyware magnet.

LkStvnsWPfan  Feb. 13, 2012 at 13:49

I would categorize this as positive fragmentation. To think that you could develop an application that could maximize the potential of upper hardware specifications while also being available to the lowest end devices is ridiculous. What will be interesting to see is if they extend the Apollo update to older devices.

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 13, 2012 at 15:54

I would categorize this as positive fragmentation. To think that you could develop an application that could maximize the potential of upper hardware specifications while also being available to the lowest end devices is ridiculous. What will be interesting to see is if they extend the Apollo update to older devices.

The problem with that argument is that it fails to consider the non-geek, average consumer. They will buy a WP handset, and they will expect it to do what their mates' WP mobile does. In the same way that Android users stuck on Eclair wonder why they cannot take screenshots the way the SGS2 or the iPhone can.

Most Windows PC owners I know who own and use a netbook scratch their heads over Win 7 Basic or Starter. They cannot believe you can't change the fr*gging wallpaper LOL, "cause it's, like, Windows"....

And with Microsoft's track record, I really cannot see anything positive about fragmentation. Unless: if they are really, really open about it. Make it clear in all advertising etc etc...
But currently the world's noisiest MS sock puppet, Stephen Elop, is criticising Android's fragmentation at every opportunity. And he bragged about the upcoming might of Apollo. Yet, like Redmond, Elop is shtum when it comes to the big questions such as, will the current Lumias get Apollo?

And there are plenty of iOS apps that run well on the iPhone 3G S although they were made after the launch of the iPhone 4S. In the same way I can still install new S60 apps on my ancient E61.

But granted: it's foolish to launch resource-hungry apps on underpowered hardware. HTC are beginning to feel the backlash with regards to the Sense UI that gets in the way of OS updates etc etc....

lumpaywk  Feb. 13, 2012 at 21:30

Oh, I thought this was about Apollo - which, rumour has it, won't be coming to any current WP devices...


But anyone who believes WP was a remedy against fragmentation: hello. It's by that company who make Vista in 100 versions. Who not only have Windows 7 Basic, but also Windows 7 Starter... Who build entire Desktop Os around IE - the world's most bloated mal- and spyware magnet.


rumour has it???? or the words of a random mad man proved multiple times to not have a clue and a vedetta against MS! Eldar started that rumour and there is nothing in it and was already rubbished by an official reply from MS.

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 13, 2012 at 21:59

Oh, I thought this was about Apollo - which, rumour has it, won't be coming to any current WP devices...


But anyone who believes WP was a remedy against fragmentation: hello. It's by that company who make Vista in 100 versions. Who not only have Windows 7 Basic, but also Windows 7 Starter... Who build entire Desktop Os around IE - the world's most bloated mal- and spyware magnet.


rumour has it???? or the words of a random mad man proved multiple times to not have a clue and a vedetta against MS! Eldar started that rumour and there is nothing in it and was already rubbished by an official reply from MS.


It actually wasn't just The Murt who made the claim. Also consider the hardware requirements, etc etc...
I suspect current WP7.5 handsets will get some type of "Apollo"... But that is the point. Current Netbooks have "types" of Win 7 that anyone used to Win 7 Premium or Ultimate will hardly recognise ;)

But hey, maybe I'm wrong? We'll see in a few months.

http://www.reddit.com/r/wp7/comments/p8j0r/will_windows_7_phones_be_updated_to_windows_8/

lumpaywk  Feb. 14, 2012 at 09:08

It is possible you are right but I don’t see it. MS has already said all current windows phones will get the next MAJOR update in a direct response to Eldar reporting this very issue. You could argue they mean Tango but 2 things first off Tango is not a major update it is a small tweak like NoDo. The major updates are the annual ones first being mango the next Apollo. 2nd point is that it was a reply to a tweet from Eldar specifically about Apollo. Why would they responded so publically to a tweet with a reply about something totally different?

As i said it is possible i mean Apollo is a huge update and there is more and more people jumping on the bandwagon. However these are all the same people that didn’t believe all updates would roll out at the same time to all devices etc. and so far bar a couple weeks maybe they have. MS knows they can’t take the bad publicity right now and will do everything to keep customers happy and telling people about it.

jabberwolf  Feb. 15, 2012 at 05:08

I'm still laughing at this article...
Did anyone read the source???!! Anyone?
This is a rant and rave about MS allowing lesser hardware specs and certain applications not being able to run on the lower specs. This is because its the APPLICATION requirements of the hardware. This would be fragmentation but more brought on by the hardware and application creator and not Windows.

But given the time line and release of the rumor - I think its just that... a rumor. Why? Why would memory and specs go LOWER as time goes on? Why would they get more exepenive? THEY WOUDLNT !!!
Memory and specs will only increase in hardware and the status quo will get cheaper. There would be little or no reason to lower the wp7 specs.

Also notice Google News search provides this as the top news for wp7.

When brains applied, this is a trash article with no forethought, promoted by a scared google, and brainless followers trying to reason and support the bad logic.

JanSt / MOD  Feb. 15, 2012 at 09:03

Oh wait, jabber - so, Microsoft are also not to blame for nonsense like "Vista Ready" on useless laptops? For Win 7 Basic on dual-core, 2GB RAM netbooks? You tell us who and what isn't to blame for the above. Who or what is?

And isn't it better to maybe "overreact" and report on such rumours to give MS and OEMs a clear signal, than to assume they have our bestest in mind and will not *ck with us? Cause that approach gave us a fragmented Android Market and a half dozen + versions of every "new" version of Windows...
Before the first iPhone was launched thousands and thousands of online posts were dismissing the "rumours" that it wouldn't have mass-storage/multitasking/copy-paste/3rd party apps/etc...

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