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Is it out yet?

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Most Useful Answer Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 17:08

People are odd. From the torygraph

14.30 Another poll result has just come in- this time about 4G which we are expected to see on the new iPhone. Apparently less than a quarter of people surveyed actually know what 4G is. A further 18% said they welcomed 4G technology but believed that 5G – which doesn’t yet exist – would be ‘significantly better.’
14.35 The survey also says that 89% of respondents were looking forward to 4G. So do people just assume new is better even if they don't understand it? Not sure how realistic the results actually are.

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mrew42  Sep. 12, 2012 at 16:05

No, I zipped it up again so the world is safe once more.

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 16:08

fnah

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 17:08

People are odd. From the torygraph

14.30 Another poll result has just come in- this time about 4G which we are expected to see on the new iPhone. Apparently less than a quarter of people surveyed actually know what 4G is. A further 18% said they welcomed 4G technology but believed that 5G – which doesn’t yet exist – would be ‘significantly better.’
14.35 The survey also says that 89% of respondents were looking forward to 4G. So do people just assume new is better even if they don't understand it? Not sure how realistic the results actually are.

blizzard7  Sep. 12, 2012 at 17:17

Get it out.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2012 at 17:21

When you Google image search "is it out yet"
http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/iPhone-5-release-date-rumors.jpg

I really expected worse :p

AhmadCentral  Sep. 12, 2012 at 17:28

No, Nokia havent released the EE exclusive Lumia 920 yet.

... What? ...

that wasn't what you meant...
...oh sorry!

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2012 at 17:39

People are odd. From the torygraph

14.30 Another poll result has just come in- this time about 4G which we are expected to see on the new iPhone. Apparently less than a quarter of people surveyed actually know what 4G is. A further 18% said they welcomed 4G technology but believed that 5G – which doesn’t yet exist – would be ‘significantly better.’
14.35 The survey also says that 89% of respondents were looking forward to 4G. So do people just assume new is better even if they don't understand it? Not sure how realistic the results actually are.


Apparently (so a later poll), people also want wireless charging (thanks for nuddin' Nokia :p )...

What's up with that? It's idotic.

CTPAHHIK  Sep. 12, 2012 at 18:04

Yet, you are discussing it :)

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2012 at 18:08

Yet, you are discussing it :)
I'm an odd-o-phile :p

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 18:23

People are odd. From the torygraph

14.30 Another poll result has just come in- this time about 4G which we are expected to see on the new iPhone. Apparently less than a quarter of people surveyed actually know what 4G is. A further 18% said they welcomed 4G technology but believed that 5G – which doesn’t yet exist – would be ‘significantly better.’
14.35 The survey also says that 89% of respondents were looking forward to 4G. So do people just assume new is better even if they don't understand it? Not sure how realistic the results actually are.


Apparently (so a later poll), people also want wireless charging (thanks for nuddin' Nokia :p )...

What's up with that? It's idotic.


I don't get how 89% of people can want something that 75% of people don't even know what it is. *brain melting* actually that could be how

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:06

Anyway on the i5 no shocks whatsoever from what I can see and they've moved on to ipods.
3gs retired. 4 survives and 4s down in price (now $99 on contract which the One X and S3 have both been at), 5 at 4s initial pricing.

blizzard7  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:12

Anyway on the i5 no shocks whatsoever from what I can see and they've moved on to ipods.
3gs retired. 4 survives and 4s down in price (now $99 on contract which the One X and S3 have both been at), 5 at 4s initial pricing.


Rumours were pretty much spot on. So it's basically a 4S with a larger screen and some common sense upgrades.

Given that the display is what they were pushing so hard last year as being the best in class, it's funny how they are now happy to be second to all those 720p displays.

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:19

Ah but it'll have (slightly) higher dpi I presume (not checked)

Ipod nano quote
"It's really beautiful, and of course that bigger screen is great for experiencing your music even better."

blizzard7  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:23

Ah but it'll have (slightly) higher dpi I presume (not checked)

But no matter how you look at it, they have a dpi above 300 and they've got a higher resolution.


Ipod nano quote
"It's really beautiful, and of course that bigger screen is great for experiencing your music even better."


I personally like the, "It's the best X we've ever made". Well, you're not going to make your next version worse than the previous are you?

blizzard7  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:30

A lanyard strap for the iPod touch, haha, oh boy...

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:32

Ah but it'll have (slightly) higher dpi I presume (not checked)

But no matter how you look at it, they have a dpi above 300 and they've got a higher resolution.


La la la we can't hear you it's higher dpi ;)


Ipod nano quote
"It's really beautiful, and of course that bigger screen is great for experiencing your music even better."


I personally like the, "It's the best X we've ever made". Well, you're not going to make your next version worse than the previous are you?


Well companies definitely have, come to think of it Apple definitely have before with the fugly wide nano few years back. Think the 2g shuffle had worse audio chip than first too.

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:36

Touch gets few bonus colours
4th gen iPod touch stays around, 16GB for $199 or 32GB for $249.
5th gen iPod touch 32GB is $299 or 64GB for $399.
And there I was hoping for 128gb, mind you given the prices anyway... :(

Very different animals but 16gb 4g ipod touch or 16gb 2g kindle Fire/8gb nexus 7

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 19:48

Well the circus rolls on but I think they miss the old ring master.

Anyway
"19.50 For those of you that take these things as a crucial indicator, or have shares yourself Apple's stock price is currently... down 0.1%"

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2012 at 20:04

People are odd. From the torygraph

14.30 Another poll result has just come in- this time about 4G which we are expected to see on the new iPhone. Apparently less than a quarter of people surveyed actually know what 4G is. A further 18% said they welcomed 4G technology but believed that 5G – which doesn’t yet exist – would be ‘significantly better.’
14.35 The survey also says that 89% of respondents were looking forward to 4G. So do people just assume new is better even if they don't understand it? Not sure how realistic the results actually are.


Apparently (so a later poll), people also want wireless charging (thanks for nuddin' Nokia :p )...

What's up with that? It's idotic.


I don't get how 89% of people can want something that 75% of people don't even know what it is. *brain melting* actually that could be how


Yes, and I love the Lumia folks on Twitter who say, "ooh, new connector? Nokia got rid of the need for a connector"... No offence, but: the induction pads cost more than a normal charger, AND there still is the micro-USB socket for conventional chargers. Meanwhile, there's no space for a normal Sim?Yeah, right...

Also: re the new connector: Samsung's tabs use proprietary connectors, and they are harder to buy than iDevice accessories. Moreover: the Galaxy Note 10.1 requires a different connector than the other current Galaxy tabs! Nor does it fit Samsung's own docks for the other tabs! And they require different micro-usb adaptors... the Nook Color also uses something that looks like micro-usb, but isn't. Meanwhile, you can use a 5 year old iPhone cable on the iPad 3... so, lets keep it real.
Anyone who expected Apple to go micro-USB, lives in dreamworld.

And funny how nobody (or: way way fewer people) screams: "no replacable battery" anymore, now that Nokia and many Android phones have sealed in juicers...

Don't get me wrong - I won't buy an iPhone 5. For all sorts of reasons, but cherrypicking rationales isn't of any use. Just say what you don't like without turning your preferences into some sort of universal truth.

blizzard7  Sep. 12, 2012 at 20:12

Touch gets few bonus colours
4th gen iPod touch stays around, 16GB for $199 or 32GB for $249.
5th gen iPod touch 32GB is $299 or 64GB for $399.
And there I was hoping for 128gb, mind you given the prices anyway... :(

Very different animals but 16gb 4g ipod touch or 16gb 2g kindle Fire/8gb nexus 7


Wow good point. You can get a tablet for the same price as an iTouch... Just puts into perspective the profit margin on those things.

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 20:14

Yes, and I love the Lumia folks on Twitter who say, "ooh, new connector? Nokia got rid of the need for a connector"... No offence, but: the induction pads cost more than a normal charger, AND there still is the micro-USB socket for conventional chargers. Meanwhile, there's no space for a normal Sim?Yeah, right...

Also: re the new connector: Samsung's tabs use proprietary connectors, and they are harder to buy than iDevice accessories. Moreover: the Galaxy Note 10.1 requires a different connector than the other current Galaxy tabs! Nor does it fit Samsung's own docks for the other tabs! And they require different micro-usb adaptors... the Nook Color also uses something that looks like micro-usb, but isn't. Meanwhile, you can use a 5 year old iPhone cable on the iPad 3... so, lets keep it real.
Anyone who expected Apple to go micro-USB, lives in dreamworld.

And funny how nobody (or: way way fewer people) screams: "no replacable battery" anymore, now that Nokia and many Android phones have sealed in juicers...

Don't get me wrong - I won't buy an iPhone 5. For all sorts of reasons, but cherrypicking rationales isn't of any use. Just say what you don't like without turning your preferences into some sort of universal truth.


All the more reason to avoid twitter tbh.
The dock thing may have been something that needed to happen, but the old connector did impart quite some stability to the pairing, regardless not seeing it as a huge plus or minus. Might have done if I owned an expensive speaker though...
Both the samsung tabs I saw yesterday were plugged in so didn't notice the connections, interesting.
Well the non replaceable battery had an impact on One X sales in honesty I don't know many people with multiple batteries regardless though.

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 20:17

Wow good point. You can get a tablet for the same price as an iTouch... Just puts into perspective the profit margin on those things.

Not really as it costs to make things smaller and keep decent battery life and the like, especially as they've put same res screen as the phone in apparently, but it's an interesting choice for some parents nonetheless I'd say.

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2012 at 20:22

Wow good point. You can get a tablet for the same price as an iTouch... Just puts into perspective the profit margin on those things.

Not really as it costs to make things smaller and keep decent battery life and the like, especially as they've put same res screen as the phone in apparently, but it's an interesting choice for some parents nonetheless I'd say.


Very true! The Note 10.1 cost 30% less than the SGS3 or Note 2... Meanwhile, the Galaxy MP3 player cost almost as much as an S2... there's perspective to the perspective ;)

Pondlife  Sep. 12, 2012 at 20:30

Certainly not seen the S2 for same price as I've seen 5" Galaxy player. ;)

JanSt / MOD  Sep. 12, 2012 at 20:57

Well, here in Ireland the Galaxy player sold for €380-ish when you could get an S2 for €429... That is very close for a device that is almost redundant when almost everyone has a competent musicplayer in their phone?!

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